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ghettosynth wrote:
hibidy wrote:I'm lost. Which way to the mens room?????
Just follow the yellow brick road. It's worth the journey, there's no other place on earth when you can find so many factory fresh analogs.
Oh, I missed this somehow...... :lol:

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hibidy wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:
hibidy wrote:I'm lost. Which way to the mens room?????
Just follow the yellow brick road. It's worth the journey, there's no other place on earth when you can find so many factory fresh analogs.
Oh, I missed this somehow...... :lol:
This is for you bro:

If you have requests for Korg VST features or changes, they are listening at https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/requests/new

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zerocrossing wrote:
Doug1978(tempID) wrote:analog vs digital vs my arse.
Ive been using my arse to do biological synthesis. So far it's only monophonic, but very, very warm. Better than analog or digital.
Yes, i have also one of these devices. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the synthesizer world, but it failed. It was because there is no accurate way to control the pitch, and also programming new sounds to it was a nightmare. I think it is a one trick pony, best used for drone type sounds, 2 types of effects are also availabe but i mostly turn them off as they are not that pleasant.

Edit: correction about FX chain, one effect is hardwired to the sound so you cannot turn it off. The other effect has dry/wet control, but mastering this is also tricky, you may end up having quite wet sounds by accident.
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ENV1 wrote:A computer is no more capable of generating analog sound than a CD Player is. And plugins are computer programs, meaning no matter which one you take, at the end of the day you will always get 100% digitally generated sound out of a 100% digital medium. So there goes 'analog'.
Not really, I mean if you play a CD, what kind of sound comes out of your speakers? The answer is not a blocky looking "digital" wave, but an analogue wave with a higher dynamic range than vinyl. If your worried about ultra-sonic content, for some strange reason, digital can handle this easily simply by upping the sample rate.

In turn the only limiting factors on what kind of sounds a computer can generate are the knowledge of the programmer and the CPU power available.

But back on topic, yes, it is very difficult to 100% model an analogue synth with a digital one, but each year the results are getting closer. But on the subjective level of sound quality there's no reason why digital can't compete with analogue.

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MichellMM wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Doug1978(tempID) wrote:analog vs digital vs my arse.
Ive been using my arse to do biological synthesis. So far it's only monophonic, but very, very warm. Better than analog or digital.
Yes, i have also one of these devices. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the synthesizer world, but it failed. It was because there is no accurate way to control the pitch
Only a poor artist blames his tools.



Do you think that they reused that "wind" screen afterwards?

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I like how on the Surge website it says, Digital - and proud of it
...may just have to get that one next.

I don't care either way what it's trying to be, (virtual analog/digital) just that if I like the sound, and can find a use for it along my other synths then it's a done deal.

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matt42 wrote:
ENV1 wrote:A computer is no more capable of generating analog sound than a CD Player is. And plugins are computer programs, meaning no matter which one you take, at the end of the day you will always get 100% digitally generated sound out of a 100% digital medium. So there goes 'analog'.
Not really, I mean if you play a CD, what kind of sound comes out of your speakers? The answer is not a blocky looking "digital" wave, but an analogue wave with a higher dynamic range than vinyl.
Of course, that goes without saying.

The point was that a computer cannot generate analog audio, (like a synth made of resistors, diodes, transistors, etc. can), because all a computer knows is data streams. And that, of course, means no sound without D/A conversion.

Ergo: No plugin will ever sound any more analog than a CD Player or any other digital audio device.

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ENV1 wrote:
matt42 wrote:
ENV1 wrote:A computer is no more capable of generating analog sound than a CD Player is. And plugins are computer programs, meaning no matter which one you take, at the end of the day you will always get 100% digitally generated sound out of a 100% digital medium. So there goes 'analog'.
Not really, I mean if you play a CD, what kind of sound comes out of your speakers? The answer is not a blocky looking "digital" wave, but an analogue wave with a higher dynamic range than vinyl.
Of course, that goes without saying.

The point was that a computer cannot generate analog audio, (like a synth made of resistors, diodes, transistors, etc. can), because all a computer knows is data streams. And that, of course, means no sound without D/A conversion.

Ergo: No plugin will ever sound any more analog than a CD Player or any other digital audio device.
In 3D its called photo-realism. A computer generated image has to look like a digital picture. Maybe a similar term has to be coined for the analog emulations. Record-realistic?

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knobs wrote:this thread is incomplete without the obligatory reaper mention
yes yes reaper this reaper that good bad and all the in between... reaper

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ghettosynth wrote:
MichellMM wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Doug1978(tempID) wrote:analog vs digital vs my arse.
Ive been using my arse to do biological synthesis. So far it's only monophonic, but very, very warm. Better than analog or digital.
Yes, i have also one of these devices. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the synthesizer world, but it failed. It was because there is no accurate way to control the pitch
Only a poor artist blames his tools.



Do you think that they reused that "wind" screen afterwards?
Randomly :lol: I do know that idiot's Newphew/Teh Methane is his Uncle! It is not something that He is proud off at all and has told how early birthdays when Uncle Methane would do his (f)party tricks were/are a perma scar upon his childhood :shrug: His thing is old two tone/ska stuff FWIW so big difference (I know shit about both, Pardon the expression). Imagine the horrors of all your mates whom come to your party as kids in primary school being subjected to that and the aftermath of playground banter/chatter!!! :help: Bloody cruel

I do not have a clue what inspires/drives his Uncle Methane though, Not something I'd bring up with him. Top bloke and You would never connect them as family at all. Weird world

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