Oh, I missed this somehow......ghettosynth wrote:Just follow the yellow brick road. It's worth the journey, there's no other place on earth when you can find so many factory fresh analogs.hibidy wrote:I'm lost. Which way to the mens room?????
analog vs digital vs...
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
This is for you bro:hibidy wrote:Oh, I missed this somehow......ghettosynth wrote:Just follow the yellow brick road. It's worth the journey, there's no other place on earth when you can find so many factory fresh analogs.hibidy wrote:I'm lost. Which way to the mens room?????
If you have requests for Korg VST features or changes, they are listening at https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/requests/new
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 24 Feb, 2005
Yes, i have also one of these devices. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the synthesizer world, but it failed. It was because there is no accurate way to control the pitch, and also programming new sounds to it was a nightmare. I think it is a one trick pony, best used for drone type sounds, 2 types of effects are also availabe but i mostly turn them off as they are not that pleasant.zerocrossing wrote:Ive been using my arse to do biological synthesis. So far it's only monophonic, but very, very warm. Better than analog or digital.Doug1978(tempID) wrote:analog vs digital vs my arse.
Edit: correction about FX chain, one effect is hardwired to the sound so you cannot turn it off. The other effect has dry/wet control, but mastering this is also tricky, you may end up having quite wet sounds by accident.
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- KVRian
- 1275 posts since 9 Jan, 2006
Not really, I mean if you play a CD, what kind of sound comes out of your speakers? The answer is not a blocky looking "digital" wave, but an analogue wave with a higher dynamic range than vinyl. If your worried about ultra-sonic content, for some strange reason, digital can handle this easily simply by upping the sample rate.ENV1 wrote:A computer is no more capable of generating analog sound than a CD Player is. And plugins are computer programs, meaning no matter which one you take, at the end of the day you will always get 100% digitally generated sound out of a 100% digital medium. So there goes 'analog'.
In turn the only limiting factors on what kind of sounds a computer can generate are the knowledge of the programmer and the CPU power available.
But back on topic, yes, it is very difficult to 100% model an analogue synth with a digital one, but each year the results are getting closer. But on the subjective level of sound quality there's no reason why digital can't compete with analogue.
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- KVRAF
- 16733 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Only a poor artist blames his tools.MichellMM wrote:Yes, i have also one of these devices. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the synthesizer world, but it failed. It was because there is no accurate way to control the pitchzerocrossing wrote:Ive been using my arse to do biological synthesis. So far it's only monophonic, but very, very warm. Better than analog or digital.Doug1978(tempID) wrote:analog vs digital vs my arse.
Do you think that they reused that "wind" screen afterwards?
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- KVRAF
- 9864 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I like how on the Surge website it says, Digital - and proud of it
...may just have to get that one next.
I don't care either way what it's trying to be, (virtual analog/digital) just that if I like the sound, and can find a use for it along my other synths then it's a done deal.
...may just have to get that one next.
I don't care either way what it's trying to be, (virtual analog/digital) just that if I like the sound, and can find a use for it along my other synths then it's a done deal.
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- KVRAF
- 2802 posts since 31 Aug, 2011
Of course, that goes without saying.matt42 wrote:Not really, I mean if you play a CD, what kind of sound comes out of your speakers? The answer is not a blocky looking "digital" wave, but an analogue wave with a higher dynamic range than vinyl.ENV1 wrote:A computer is no more capable of generating analog sound than a CD Player is. And plugins are computer programs, meaning no matter which one you take, at the end of the day you will always get 100% digitally generated sound out of a 100% digital medium. So there goes 'analog'.
The point was that a computer cannot generate analog audio, (like a synth made of resistors, diodes, transistors, etc. can), because all a computer knows is data streams. And that, of course, means no sound without D/A conversion.
Ergo: No plugin will ever sound any more analog than a CD Player or any other digital audio device.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
In 3D its called photo-realism. A computer generated image has to look like a digital picture. Maybe a similar term has to be coined for the analog emulations. Record-realistic?ENV1 wrote:Of course, that goes without saying.matt42 wrote:Not really, I mean if you play a CD, what kind of sound comes out of your speakers? The answer is not a blocky looking "digital" wave, but an analogue wave with a higher dynamic range than vinyl.ENV1 wrote:A computer is no more capable of generating analog sound than a CD Player is. And plugins are computer programs, meaning no matter which one you take, at the end of the day you will always get 100% digitally generated sound out of a 100% digital medium. So there goes 'analog'.
The point was that a computer cannot generate analog audio, (like a synth made of resistors, diodes, transistors, etc. can), because all a computer knows is data streams. And that, of course, means no sound without D/A conversion.
Ergo: No plugin will ever sound any more analog than a CD Player or any other digital audio device.
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- KVRian
- 676 posts since 24 May, 2011 from los angeles
yes yes reaper this reaper that good bad and all the in between... reaperknobs wrote:this thread is incomplete without the obligatory reaper mention
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
Randomlyghettosynth wrote:Only a poor artist blames his tools.MichellMM wrote:Yes, i have also one of these devices. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the synthesizer world, but it failed. It was because there is no accurate way to control the pitchzerocrossing wrote:Ive been using my arse to do biological synthesis. So far it's only monophonic, but very, very warm. Better than analog or digital.Doug1978(tempID) wrote:analog vs digital vs my arse.
Do you think that they reused that "wind" screen afterwards?
I do not have a clue what inspires/drives his Uncle Methane though, Not something I'd bring up with him. Top bloke and You would never connect them as family at all. Weird world
