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nineofkings · Post by **nineofkings** » Mon May 28, 2012 2:55 am

Guys, should I get a shovel or a pickaxe?

Just get a backhoe, it'll cover all your needs.

I don't have the fuel to run a backhoe.

That's your fault. Go buy some more fuel.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon May 28, 2012 3:17 am

LeVzi wrote:
tommyzai wrote:
manandmusic wrote:
xamido wrote:For Godsake, For Once, please stop the Diva comparison. The question is Saurus or Minimonsta. Why must every synth thread be hijacked by Diva, even one that is so obvious like this one?
Totally agree with you!
You guys are insane. It would be ridiculous NOT to mention Diva as it's considered the best analog emulation. If you are comparing #2 and #3, how can you not mention #1?
Because the OP asked about Saurus and Minimonsta, I thought that bit would have been blindingly obvious !

and one person mentions it and sits back and watches 6 people get a panty twist that it was mentioned and they are the ones who bring the focus there... all the while blaming that first person for their own lack of self control.

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Mon May 28, 2012 5:59 am

pdxindy wrote:panty twist

...only thing I got out of that

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Mon May 28, 2012 6:34 am

tommyzai wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:These synths couldn't be more different from each other. What's the point? Hey guys, should I buy a boat or a Motorcycle? I can't decide!
Bro, you are too deep into it. Overall, they are both analog emulation VSTi. It's more like Macintosh Apples and Red Delicious apples.

You are correct. I was confusing Saurus with another synth. Ignore my comment.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon May 28, 2012 7:06 am

What's up with the fruit and boat analogies? We need CAR analogies, like "Saurus is like a 82 Celica with a bra and those screew-on external blinds, and Minimonsta is like a 78 Trans-Am with tinted windows and a a t-roof." C'mon people get with the program!

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon May 28, 2012 7:35 am

braj wrote:What's up with the fruit and boat analogies? We need CAR analogies, like "Saurus is like a 82 Celica with a bra and those screew-on external blinds, and Minimonsta is like a 78 Trans-Am with tinted windows and a a t-roof." C'mon people get with the program!

Well yes, you're right. But. When I think of cars, I thinks of engines as well. When thought of engines, my mind immediately turns to the synth that shall not be named (or pictured), and when I compare that to a trans am, the only fair comparison would be a cruise ship. Which brings us back to boats again. So I'm not sure this is really working....

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon May 28, 2012 7:48 am

BDeep wrote:
braj wrote:What's up with the fruit and boat analogies? We need CAR analogies, like "Saurus is like a 82 Celica with a bra and those screew-on external blinds, and Minimonsta is like a 78 Trans-Am with tinted windows and a a t-roof." C'mon people get with the program!
Well yes, you're right. But. When I think of cars, I thinks of engines as well. When thought of engines, my mind immediately turns to the synth that shall not be named (or pictured), and when I compare that to a trans am, the only fair comparison would be a cruise ship. Which brings us back to boats again. So I'm not sure this is really working....

Well, I disagree it is a cruise ship, but I definitely think Diva is in a different class, but it 'costs' more (in CPU) and doesn't have many modern bells and whistles (like pop-up headlights on the Celica). They all go fast, and probably for many the Celica is the best 'daily driver' Diva being the highest-maintainance lady among them:

Minimonsta: pimped 78 Trans-Am:

Saurus: Celica Supra:

Diva:

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon May 28, 2012 7:55 am

Anyhow, Diva wasn't mentioned by the OP so I think it is simple: he wants to know about person's opinions comparing the two mentioned by him, I think that should be respected and don't see how any other plugin needs to be added

it is like starting a fight. Why not bring in OP-X Pro II while we're at it? And there are a ton more of course...

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon May 28, 2012 8:05 am

You're right, it's not wat the OP asked, but when asked for opinions on two synths people usually bring in comparisons with synths they're personally excited about. It's somewhat unavoidable (and understandable).

Back to the topic, I don't have Saurus or Minimonsta, but I would be a bit reluctant to jump on the GForce ship (sorry, step in the GForce car

) since they're so slow getting their products ready for 64 bit systems.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon May 28, 2012 8:16 am

BDeep wrote:You're right, it's not wat the OP asked, but when asked for opinions on two synths people usually bring in comparisons with synths their personally excited about. It's somewhat unavoidable (and understandable).

Back to the topic, I don't have Saurus or Minimonsta, but I would be a bit reluctant to jump on the GForce ship (sorry, step in the GForce car ) since they're so slow getting their products ready for 64 bit systems.

Well, you see, they make a whole bunch of CARS around and deliver them to different ports for sale on SHIPS

Yeah, the 64-bit issue would be a big consideration for me. If you buy a product for what it gives you today not promises tomorrow, Saurus probably as-is last further into the future than Minimonsta. And then there is Saurus' 0 feedback filter that strangely didn't get a mention in this thread yet, unless I missed it. That's another consideration.

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Mon May 28, 2012 8:34 am

Funny how some people didn't read that the OP have an old PC which will need every processing power for it. Low CPU Usage + Sound = Saurus.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon May 28, 2012 8:45 am

xamido wrote:Funny how some people didn't read that the OP have an old PC which will need every processing power for it. Low CPU Usage + Sound = Saurus.

He never actually said that, did he? I thought pdxindy brought that up, and he answered back sardonically.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Mon May 28, 2012 9:19 am

braj wrote:
xamido wrote:Funny how some people didn't read that the OP have an old PC which will need every processing power for it. Low CPU Usage + Sound = Saurus.
He never actually said that, did he? I thought pdxindy brought that up, and he answered back sardonically.

Some probably saw that I was orignally looking for modular synths, but then decided to stick with one of these 2 synths instead. I had mentioned I have an older PC in that thread, so maybe that's where they got it from?

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Mon May 28, 2012 9:50 am

Examigan wrote:Some probably saw that I was orignally looking for modular synths, but then decided to stick with one of these 2 synths instead. I had mentioned I have an older PC in that thread, so maybe that's where they got it from?

Maybe buy neither, and put it toward a new pc.
I'm hoping to get a new i7 pc laptop soon.
Just can't buy any new synths for a while.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Mon May 28, 2012 9:51 am

It's funny to see that it's difficult to mention Diva as a "reference synth" in a comparison without someone starting another "Diva vs XXX" rant.
In this case the comparison was obvious as first the sound and features (including the zero delay feedback) of Saurus are comparable and second both Minimosnta and Diva are Minimoog emulations.
While for a more "general" use (as a VA synth, for more advanced features i would choose ElectraX or Syntghmaster) i would prefer Saurus (even in comparison to Diva) but as a pure Minimoog emulation Diva seems to be better even if Diva does not have the same parameter ranges and a photorealistic replication of the Minimoog GUI. anyway Saurus could do some nice Moog like sounds too.

Last year i sold Minimonsta together with some other synths (including Zebra 2.5 BTW) and replaced it first with a Moog Slim Phatty and later also with Diva. BTW i was not interested in the additional features of Minimonsta but more in a proper Minimoog emulation where it seemed to fail IMO like did the Arturia one, at least in terms of sound quality.
Like i mentioned in a different thread i got Diva as a replacement for both a Minimoog and a Jupiter 8 (which i both got around 2004/2005 as the "real deal"). As mentioned in my first post here i recently found that Saurus could replicate some of my own Jupiter sounds for Diva quite well and sounds even better with an EQ added.
I also mentioned that i'll maybe do another "clearout" of my softsynths this year and that the evaluation will also include the question if i really need Diva or not which i could not really answer at the moment. Maybe that decision will become obsolete if i get a new PC (which could better handle Diva) before.

Ingo