Do you use text boxes to type values into plugins, or just sliders/knobs?
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I think it's a benefit of the digital world and shouldn't be left out, when possible.
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 25 Sep, 2010
I am a big fan of textboxes for data entry, and use them often, especially on effects where small changes have big effects such as a limiter's threshold setting.
However, I don't find myself looking for textboxes in ValhallaDSP products because Sean has wisely chosen large, simple sliders over rotary knobs for the most important parameters. The rotary knobs he does implement are large and move the way you expect them to (don't suddenly start moving in reverse or jump as many other UIs do).
The addition of textboxes to VR and UM would be welcome enhancements, but not critical.
However, I don't find myself looking for textboxes in ValhallaDSP products because Sean has wisely chosen large, simple sliders over rotary knobs for the most important parameters. The rotary knobs he does implement are large and move the way you expect them to (don't suddenly start moving in reverse or jump as many other UIs do).
The addition of textboxes to VR and UM would be welcome enhancements, but not critical.
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 25 Sep, 2010
Unless it's an ALT-SHIFT-CTL-LeftBracket secret combination I haven't discovered yet, then nope.kpd wrote:They're already there, aren't they?bbaggins wrote:The addition of textboxes to VR and UM would be welcome enhancements, but not critical.
As long we're talking possible enhancements, I have a request: I'd like the first click on a slider just select it but not actually change the value until I drag the mouse. Oftentimes I'll click on a slider because I want to nudge it up or down a tad, and it's frustrating when merely by clicking on it I change the value radically. I've had to get into the habit of memorizing the current value before clicking a control.
BTW, Valhalla products are not alone in this annoying behavior. But the best UIs don't, e.g. FabFilter and Waves products.
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- KVRAF
- 16794 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
I find entering a numeric values via the keyboard is essentially important - not only in Valhalla Plug-Ins. E.g. in Shimmer with Pitch mode on I always enter the desired interval numerically and never use the knob/dial. So if I want a fifth, I enter 7 (or 7.01 to add some detuning) and hit return, much faster than grabbing the knob with the mouse and moving it to exactly 7.00 or 7.01.
- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from England
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- KVRist
- 393 posts since 12 Sep, 2005 from NYC
I find it's great to have the ability to enter numerically via the text box when you need a maximum level of control for fine tuning.
Also having the ability to use sliders when your reacting more by "feel" is nice on an intuitive level.
Also having the ability to use sliders when your reacting more by "feel" is nice on an intuitive level.
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
I use both methods myself. Makes it quicker sometimes...
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
Sure does. Pretty clear and significant poll results.ttoz wrote:looks like text boxes are here to stay
Sean Costello
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- KVRAF
- 7579 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
I use text values very often when something needs to be precise. Sometimes even using the fine knob control button (shift or ctrl or alt or whatever), the knob doesn't go to the value and is over or under. So it's very much appreciated.valhallasound wrote:Hi everyone,
Working on some GUI changes for future Valhalla plugins, and want to know how often people use the text boxes above/below a knob/slider/etc. to change the value, versus just using the knob/slider/etc.
Any and all feedback welcome.
Thanks,
Sean Costello
It's also nice when the values make sense. But sometimes plugins don't, and the value is just specific to whatever variable in an algorithm that doesn't have a quantifiable value. But even then it's nice.
- KVRAF
- 1855 posts since 21 Sep, 2004 from Musician, Recording Engineer, Producer
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- KVRian
- 1061 posts since 3 Oct, 2011
+ 1 for plugins without driving me crazy as they tend to skip the exact setting I'd like, especially important when sounds are layered or for some other reason tweaked in relation to each other where slight differences are wanted. Voted 2. Tend to "zoom in" on the sound I like (after mucking about quite a bit, usually...) by knobs/faders/whatever and then want to be able to easily enter a precise value.
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- KVRist
- 473 posts since 9 Jul, 2010 from Wellington, New Zealand
If I know the value i want then yes I go straight to text, but if I'm searching for the right sound then I adjust the knobs.
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
I never use text boxes, I tune with my ears but there must be option to fine-tune (shift) and ultra fine-tune (ctrl-shift/alt-shift). Even if I tune by ears, visual feedback is important too.


