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izonin · Post by **izonin** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:14 pm

90's producers were like Ray William Johnson's of music. They searched for great sounding beats and pieces, and glued them together in a song. Copyright awareness has changed since then and music has declined.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:23 pm

Fatboy who?

SAW75 · Post by **SAW75** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:35 pm

people with tons of money can afford to be snobs about software. it has nothing to do with magical inspiration. he'd be in love with software if he had less money.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:44 pm

SAW75 wrote:people with tons of money can afford to be snobs about software. it has nothing to do with magical inspiration. he'd be in love with software if he had less money.

How So ?
Most of the stuff he talks about is cheap , like Ataris and s950's.
There is tons of cheap hardware around. Some of it cheaper than software.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:55 pm

I was a bit shocked as I listened to the new song from Norman Cook & David Byrne - this isn't the Fatboy Slim anymore. It sounds like normal pop-rock-music, not bad, but rather boring.

I think the loads of samples which he had collected in the 90ies, he couldn't use them today, because of copyright issues...that's maybe the cause that he makes no sample-based music any more and changed to pop-rock instead.

SAW75 · Post by **SAW75** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:02 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:
SAW75 wrote:people with tons of money can afford to be snobs about software. it has nothing to do with magical inspiration. he'd be in love with software if he had less money.
How So ?
Most of the stuff he talks about is cheap , like Ataris and s950's.
There is tons of cheap hardware around. Some of it cheaper than software.

i'm pretty sure his studio is loaded and he has access to plenty.

anyway, it's hard not to generalize when commenting because he is generalizing. i'm not even sure what his point is.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:02 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:I was a bit shocked as I listened to the new song from Norman Cook & David Byrne - this isn't the Fatboy Slim anymore. It sounds like normal pop-rock-music, not bad, but rather boring.

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That's pretty much what he did before he was calling himself Fatboy.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:03 pm

What about software synths and the like...

"They're on there and I have a play with them, but they all sound a bit samey - metallic and twangy. Sure, you can get the most incredibly complex noises coming out of them, but they don't really inspire me. I know I'm not the first person to say this, but we're getting to a point where everyone is going to have an unlimited musical palette .

Bullshit. Should be "most of them" not "all".

Contradiction. Limited to "metallic and twangy", but "unlimited musical palette".

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:06 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:
SAW75 wrote:people with tons of money can afford to be snobs about software. it has nothing to do with magical inspiration. he'd be in love with software if he had less money.
How So ?
Most of the stuff he talks about is cheap , like Ataris and s950's.
There is tons of cheap hardware around. Some of it cheaper than software.

+1, I just recently bought a Roland Alpha Juno for £165 and a Yamaha DX-21 for £85, both cost cheaper than some of the software equivelents...

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:07 pm

SAW75 wrote:i'm not even sure what his point is.

His point was to answer a question that an interviewer asked him, and he answered it. He said software synths don't inspire him and that they mostly sound samey to him, and basically, fancy glitchy or complex patches are not what's going to inspire him. It's simple to understand his point.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:11 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:I was a bit shocked as I listened to the new song from Norman Cook & David Byrne - this isn't the Fatboy Slim anymore. It sounds like normal pop-rock-music, not bad, but rather boring.

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That's pretty much what he did before he was calling himself Fatboy.

Yes, the more he gets older the more he gets back to his roots...that's the usual development...

But I like the sound of Beats International and Fatboy Slim a lot more, because there are so much people doing the pop-rock-stuff.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:11 pm

Apparently he hasn't used Diva yet.

Ross Baron · Post by **Ross Baron** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:35 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Ross Baron wrote: No dissing at all, just placing questionmarks on his relevance on this subject. I do have an other opinion on this, and given the numerous releases made with "digital sounds" "taken from the internet" that do a great job on dancefloors I am doubting his opinion. Especially since I haven't heard a proper tune from him long time.
What is there to doubt? Where did he ever claim that good music isn't being made with laptops and samples from the internet? He made no such argument. He's just a famous producer from a decade ago who is talking about his personal tastes in equipment and way of working. That's all it is. You are making this out to be some kind of argument that it most certainly is not.

It's basically like if Angus Young did an interview and said he didn't like the sound of Ibanez guitars, so you call his opinion invalid becasue clearly plenty of great albums have been made with Ibanez guitars, and he hasn't done anything great recently, so his opinion has no relevance. That would be a pretty stupid and pointless reaction, wouldn't it? Yet, when the subject of hardware vs software comes up, suddenly everyone gets all worked up. How dare someone say they don't like soft synths! They must be some kind of washed-up fool!

True that, you're right. He didn't make any claims, so my arguments weren't right. I did have the feeling of grandpa talking about dem good old days....and reacted to that feeling.
I don't care about hardware or software, I just like good sound. But let's make it then instead of talking about it.
Cheers!

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:43 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:I was a bit shocked as I listened to the new song from Norman Cook & David Byrne - this isn't the Fatboy Slim anymore. It sounds like normal pop-rock-music, not bad, but rather boring. >snip<

norman cook did thousands of releases under various different pseudonyms, till today... also, he produced a great variety of music, of which a lot of folks didn't know it was him actually...

producer of beautiful south (british handmade pop)
member [bass] of the housemartins (british handmade pop)
beats international (ragga, hiphop, rap)
phatboy slim, [he ditched this project in 2008/9] (breakbeat, bigbeat and techno/house)

some of his other pseudonyms are/were:

Brighton Port Authority
Cheeky Boy
Chemistry
DJ Delite - used in DJ Tools (e.g. acapellas) for Fatboy Slim singles
Freak Power
Fried Funk Food
Mighty Dub Katz ("Magic Carpet Ride" most famous dance/house hit, 1996)
Pizzaman
Rockaway 3
Sensataria
Son of a Cheeky Boy
Son of Wilmot
Sunny Side Up
The Feelgood Factor
Yum Yum Head Food

...just to name a few...

there's club/pophits all over the place in various different music genres, where noone really got to know that it's norman cook who did them/was involved...
since the early nineties up to now he influenced contemporary music constantly and a lot.

just saying...

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:47 pm

Neon Breath wrote:Fatboy who?

lemm guess - you're 16 years old, a speedmetal-freak and you live on mars?

just kidding...

edit:
feckin' typos...

Fatboy Slim thoughts about software synths