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Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:35 pm

Why are ppl putting new 'instruments' in this forum, when in actusl fact, they have released a sample set/library for kontakt

The thread titles are very misleading, especially as often kontakt isnt even mentioned in the title.

Timfonie · Post by **Timfonie** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:44 pm

Sometimes it can be a bit difficult to distinguish between a sample library and a synth, due to Kontakt's advanced sample manipulation functions. Some products for Kontakt only use relatively small sample sets and feel more like a soft synth than a rompler. In fact you can use only snippets of sounds as oscillators and let the filters and envelope generators etc. do most of the rest.

Some examples: Hollow Sun's Music Laboratory Machines and Synthmagic products. Another instrument which feels/behaves like a synth is Wave Alchemy Pro II, although it uses a larger sample set.

bob bobwood · Post by **bob bobwood** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:19 pm

Kriminal wrote:Why are ppl putting new 'instruments' in this forum, when in actusl fact, they have released a sample set/library for kontakt

It's bugged me since I joined KVR. My view is; if you need kontakt to run it, it's a sample set/library as far as I'm concerned, and seemingly belongs in the sample section. But if I'm truthful, I'm glad when I see the free kontakt stuff when it appears under Instruments as it is where I look first.

synthmagic · Post by **synthmagic** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:48 pm

I have always thought Kontakt instruments could be placed in the instruments section as lots always seem to be here.
I have asked Meffy to move my thread to the sample section.
Sorry about that.

Cheers,
Steve

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:03 pm

No trouble. Moved.

synthmagic · Post by **synthmagic** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:13 pm

Thanks Meffy

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:18 pm

If any other threads need to be moved, drop me a PM and I'll handle it when I get to a break in work. Or let D.H. or bluedad know. It's very easy and quick to move a whole thread, no bother at all.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:23 pm

I don't get you guys. It seems some of you are splitting hairs. Yes kontakt is a sampler but it evolved all these years.

So one can actually think that it is instrument because of Kontakt highly advanced scripting and instrument GUI sculpting. You can use it and actually make of it some darn good synth and user don't have to think about getting or loading samples in it to run some beautiful synth instruments.

You know there are dozen of real hardware instruments which does use only samples as OSC sources yet i never heard anyone call them "samplers" or complain that they should be called "samplers" because they use samples as oscillators.

so in fact you'll never find anything as Roland JD-990 to be in "samplers" are of some webpage or something..

Nanakai · Post by **Nanakai** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:09 am

Since when is a sample player not an instrument? Massive uses wavetables - should we only talk about Massive in the Samples subforum?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:33 am

Massive isn't a sample pack. Kontakt is an instrument; all but the most tightly integrated products for Kontakt would qualify as sample packs, not instruments. There could be gray area there at the "top" of the complexity heap.

Use common sense. If your common sense says you think a thread's in the right forum, then there's no need for you to tell a mod or anyone else. (KVR makes it that easy! Convenient non-service that you don't even have to ask for.) Thanks.

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