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how to avoid from harsh mix?

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Lucky C
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64 posts since 28 Dec, 2008

Postby Lucky C; Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:55 pm how to avoid from harsh mix?

hi everyone,

i hear alot Tommy Trash mix,and it seems that all insturments are have a bright image but nothing have any harsh from the highs or the mids.

i know its all about eq but i mess around alot with eq and reduce alot of freqs and it doesnt smooth like Tommy sound.

how everything sounds so bright and doesnt harsh?

thanks
IELMusic
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88 posts since 2 Dec, 2011

Postby IELMusic; Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:20 pm

cheneilat wrote:hi everyone,

i hear alot Tommy Trash mix,and it seems that all insturments are have a bright image but nothing have any harsh from the highs or the mids.

i know its all about eq but i mess around alot with eq and reduce alot of freqs and it doesnt smooth like Tommy sound.

how everything sounds so bright and doesnt harsh?

thanks


The key to brightness is high frequency content. If your mix has plenty on high frequency content, it'll sound bright and crisp. The trick is, to make sure you don't have too much extreme highs (8 KHz and up), because that'll make it sound hissy and noisy, and also, to make sure you don't accumulate too much content in the 3KHz to 6KHz range, as this is where most of the harsh, piercing high tones reside. So, to make a sound brighter, boost it's highs, but scoop out a bit of the upper mids when it starts to sound harsh.
Lucky C
KVRist
 
64 posts since 28 Dec, 2008

Postby Lucky C; Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:22 am

Thanks for your replay...but few things I have to ask.
When you eq some lead,like supersaw and you reduce the upper mid you will lose some character of the lead,don't you?

When I listen to david guetta - laserlight,this track is full but full og highs and it doesn't scream!!
How is possible to do that? Do I need to cut freq firsts and than boosts? Should I boost with pultec?

Thanks
Automotions
KVRer
 
2 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Postby Automotions; Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:47 am

What I have found that work quite well is to tame bass and/or mid with a shelf filter (simple high pass usually destroy too much the sound I find). Then I use a simple boosting filter (simple bell curve) with large bandwidth around a sweet spot in the high frequencies. Finally a shelf low pass or simple low pass on the very top to keep really harsh frequencies checked.
james_mcfadyen
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158 posts since 20 Apr, 2011

Postby james_mcfadyen; Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:46 am

cheneilat wrote:When I listen to david guetta - laserlight,this track is full but full og highs and it doesn't scream!!


LOL - David Guetta is not a producer, at least not in the sense us on KVR are producers. Think of him as the boss who employs other people to do the hard work.

:)
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TIMT
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426 posts since 7 Mar, 2009, from MerseySide/Stockholm

Postby TIMT; Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:16 pm

Fred Rister is david guettas new "ghost producer"he's the one responsible for the new guetta dance pop sound.i think Sandy Vee is behind some of it aswell,though am not entirely sure on that one, that maybe on a track by track basis rather than an actual "ghost producer".

His older (love don't let me go,walking away etc)one was Joachim Garraud,who is now an established EDM act in his own right

Guettas a brand not an actual "artiste" so to speak
It's all about the chef not about the kitchen
Lucky C
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64 posts since 28 Dec, 2008

Postby Lucky C; Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:11 am

I know David isn't a engineer or something,that's why I was supriesed to see his name in the credits of the track "laserlight" under the section "producer,mixing & mastering"
james_mcfadyen
KVRist
 
158 posts since 20 Apr, 2011

Postby james_mcfadyen; Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:56 am

David Guetta is more of a project manager producer.

He is an exceptional DJ and knows dance music inside out. But he does need proper [creative] producers to realize his "brand".
James McFadyen
Composer
highkoo
KVRAF
 
3080 posts since 25 Jun, 2004

Postby highkoo; Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:09 am

TIMT wrote:His older one was Joachim Garraud

Wow, hadnt heard that. :(
Ugh that hurts.
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christiancoriolis
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26 posts since 17 Dec, 2002, from Aarhus, Denmark

Postby christiancoriolis; Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:50 am

Cheneilat - don't forget to try different things with compression in your mix (or on individual tracks). A signal chain like this: EQ > Compression > EQ gives you a lot of leverage to emphasize some frequencies, while keeping them tamed.

Also, try parallel compression or play with the wet/dry control on your compressor (if it has one).

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