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The best sequencer for Linux...
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I use the following DAW/Sequencer on Linux
Ardour
21%
 21%  [9]
LMMS
12%
 12%  [5]
Muse
2%
 2%  [1]
Rosegarden
4%
 4%  [2]
Seq24
4%
 4%  [2]
NON Sequencer / DAW
0%
 0%  [0]
Qtractor
4%
 4%  [2]
Traverso
0%
 0%  [0]
Buzztard
0%
 0%  [0]
Renoise for Linux
41%
 41%  [17]
Caustic on Wine
7%
 7%  [3]
Total Votes : 41

peejunk
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:00 am reply with quote
..is Caustic for Windows.

No, really.

If you think music-making should be fun, then I can't see how any Linux DAW can be appealing. I understand Linux users aren't really in the numbers, nor that willing to spend (even tho some game sales show quite differently) but with so much good and proper stuff being made.. no.. ORIGINATING from Linux by developer communities in other software fields, it always surprises me how the world of Linux audio is a minefield of anti-useability and dumb design choices. Workflow is a four-letter word, most DSP stuff (barring LinuxDSP stuff, but who is their market I haven't the faintest idea) looks like it was designed by people who never moved a (virtual) knob in other music software, let alone had anything to do with any music-making process.

So if you want to have fun making music on Linux, save yourself time and bandwidth required to test Ardour, LMMS, Muse, Rosegarden, Seq24 or any other Linux music software. Download Caustic for windows, pay the man for the Android version (even if you don't have an Android phone, he deserves it) and have fun.. real fun. Yes, it works flawlessly in Wine.

(ok Renoize is as cool as anywhere but a tracker is not really a DAW in the sense that typical user will see the hex and run away screaming)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:59 am reply with quote
peejunk wrote:
..is Caustic for Windows.


Wouldn't it be better to make a separate thread for Caustic?

I just stumbled across this by chance, wonderful news, really dig the Android version.

But for more people to notice this, a thread with "Caustic now for Windows and free" should be made Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:39 am reply with quote
I answered sincerely before to read your post. I regret now. If you want to promote Caustic it's ok, but don't insult native Linux software. You need not.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:12 pm reply with quote
stanlea wrote:
I answered sincerely before to read your post. I regret now. If you want to promote Caustic it's ok, but don't insult native Linux software. You need not.


It's a rant. Out of frustration.

It's supposed to be like that.

Caustic is basic and, apart from being a fun toy, useless. The central point of my rant is really about the state of native Linux software. Which is dismal. And I'm a long time Linux user, that uses it both at home and for work. As in: Exclusively use Linux.

But there is no decent DAW for it. I'm seriously considering buying Renoise and going back to trackers. I don't have the guts to go back working that way, so if there was a decent payware option on Linux shelling out the dough would be a no brainer for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:09 pm reply with quote
very happy with renoise, mixbus combo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:58 pm reply with quote
I'm going with renoise here...

I've used Linux a few times myself and don't really see any issues with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:51 am reply with quote
+1 for Renoise
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:49 am reply with quote
It's all crap, sorry!
IMO the best solution is to use Reaper with Wine/Wineasio. There is also the chance to get a lot VST plug-ins running if they don't use special copy protection stuff.

Ok, this will eventually changed with Bitwig. It could be the first feature complete native Linux DAW with a professional touch (I will not call it the new "Ableton Live" but we all know it goes a bit in this direction)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:14 am reply with quote
I make music with Ardour and other apps. No problem at all. But it's true that you have to know a little about what is an OS.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:46 am reply with quote
4damind wrote:
It's all crap, sorry!
IMO the best solution is to use Reaper with Wine/Wineasio. There is also the chance to get a lot VST plug-ins running if they don't use special copy protection stuff.

Ok, this will eventually changed with Bitwig. It could be the first feature complete native Linux DAW with a professional touch (I will not call it the new "Ableton Live" but we all know it goes a bit in this direction)

Yes, reaper is the best daw for linux, but using hydrogen, yoshimi,
hexter, rakarrack, guitarix, calf plugins, timemachine, and clever routing
with jackd GUIs, is an excellent composing environment, especially within a custom
distribution like www.getstudio1337.com

http://youtu.be/5aQkpINWABU

When you utilize linux components as the daw, instead of software like
qtractor, ardour3 or Muse2, you will have fewer problems. Starting off using gear from the short list of compatible hardware will also smooth the way forward. As will avoiding using the newest version of Shocked 'anything' Shocked

qtractor, ardour3 and Muse2 are advancing very nicely, so this time next year,
things will be much better on the daw front.

cheers
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:41 pm reply with quote
check out the windows expansion pack for Caustic: http://bigbeardaudio.com/products
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:38 pm reply with quote
peejunk wrote:
[ so if there was a decent payware option on Linux shelling out the dough would be a no brainer for me.


www.getstudio1337 preconfigured RT audio distro runs in ram. Fast.
Apps configured with the custom kernel, sold on a 2 gig usbstick.
Set up to use reaper. It works. I admit to benefiting from
the heavy no-brainer aspects, and stress-free recording it provides. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:53 pm reply with quote
glokraw wrote:
peejunk wrote:
[ so if there was a decent payware option on Linux shelling out the dough would be a no brainer for me.


www.getstudio1337 preconfigured RT audio distro runs in ram. Fast.
Apps configured with the custom kernel, sold on a 2 gig usbstick.
Set up to use reaper. It works. I admit to benefiting from
the heavy no-brainer aspects, and stress-free recording it provides. Smile

Just watched their video, very interesting! Hmm! $29? Hmm!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:50 am reply with quote
using qjackctl, gui for connections, the left and right are always
exposed to connect separately, so using 3 rakarrack stereo fx instances,
could, preset depending, give the drums, guitar and keyboard each 6 differing modulations. Rakarrack holds 10 fx at a time. It would be easy to create mud,
but also not so hard to make dreams come true Shit!

Hydrogen plays kits made of any 32 .wav samples in patterns and sequences of patterns,
placed as you play, like a drum machine, zynaddsubfx/yoshimi are 16 part multitimbral synths, with large sound collection, so with just those two, there is a large sonic gallery waiting just outside the box.

If you install reaper, its stereo outs can be routed for more fx and recording,
it's just another instrument to linux.
Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:40 am reply with quote
4damind wrote:
Ok, this will eventually changed with Bitwig. It could be the first feature complete native Linux DAW with a professional touch (I will not call it the new "Ableton Live" but we all know it goes a bit in this direction)


Just googled it. Looks promising. Very promising. I think it also goes a bit in the early Mackie Traction direction, in a good way.
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