Just downloaded Reason 6.5 plus a couple of RE's from the shop...

[EnochLight]

It looks like there wasn't much participation in that poll (roughly 150, out of how many Reason users?). I wonder how many users either didn't see that thread or skipped over it? I skipped it, and most of the names that I remember having problems aren't in the poll. I think that it isn't very meaningful.

Meh..I tend to disagree. Although it's clearly not all users answering, it sets a pretty good trend for the group that did participate in the poll.

Regardless, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying there aren't issues and there aren't people suffering from issues, but lets be realistic here - statistically speaking, the majority of people who post are those who have problems. It's unlikely you're going to have the large majority who haven't had any issues post about that.

They're too busy off making music.

[kmonkey]

That attitude is exactly why i am worried about that community. I've found several threads where people reported real life problems by upgrading Reason yet all they get was hard core marginalization of a problem, they where ridiculed and named as not power users or whatever(wtf?). I've just found one thread where person reported some sort of problem after upgrade yet all he got from other users is advice to blame betatesters and to stop whining

While i am sure there are good folks there (which hang probably at registered User forum) i am finding this kinda unfair userbase.

But i guess i won't making my decision based on that. I think it's even worse at Ableton forum.

These days you just can't make real world observation of dedicated DAW community because of army of lowprpofile blindfolded fanboys. Good thing that there is a real functioning demo (btw i haven't had single problem with Reason 6.5 demo i just miss RE feature)

[sellyoursoul]

It looks like there wasn't much participation in that poll (roughly 150, out of how many Reason users?). I wonder how many users either didn't see that thread or skipped over it? I skipped it, and most of the names that I remember having problems aren't in the poll. I think that it isn't very meaningful.

Meh..I tend to disagree. Although it's clearly not all users answering, it sets a pretty good trend for the group that did participate in the poll.

Regardless, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying there aren't issues and there aren't people suffering from issues, but lets be realistic here - statistically speaking, the majority of people who post are those who have problems. It's unlikely you're going to have the large majority who haven't had any issues post about that.

They're too busy off making music.

Statistically speaking, that forum is not normal. The degree of fanboyism over there is off the charts. I've been on a lot of forums, but that one is something else.

....I take that back. I remember a certain Cubase forum that might give it some competition.

[EnochLight]

That attitude is exactly why i am worried about that community. I've found several threads where people reported real life problems by upgrading Reason yet all they get was hard core marginalization of a problem, they where ridiculed and named as not power users or whatever(wtf?). I've just found one thread where person reported some sort of problem after upgrade yet all he got from other users is advice to blame betatesters and to stop whining

While i am sure there are good folks there (which hang probably at registered User forum) i am finding this kinda unfair userbase.

But i guess i won't making my decision based on that. I think it's even worse at Ableton forum.

These days you just can't make real world observation of dedicated DAW community because of army of lowprpofile blindfolded fanboys. Good thing that there is a real functioning demo (btw i haven't had single problem with Reason 6.5 demo i just miss RE feature)

Not sure what you mean by attittude - my attitude?

That said, I don't hang around the General Forum, which is what you are referring to. The attitiude in that forum can be pretty harsh. I spend literally 99% of my time in the registered User Forum - the people there are of a completely different mindset, usually. I find people want to help more and the discussions are usually more mature.

I think there is a certain degree of fanboyism anywhere you go - and it's no less evident here at KVR. There's just a more eclectic bunch of fanboys, since it functions to service all DAW's...

[EnochLight]

It looks like there wasn't much participation in that poll (roughly 150, out of how many Reason users?). I wonder how many users either didn't see that thread or skipped over it? I skipped it, and most of the names that I remember having problems aren't in the poll. I think that it isn't very meaningful.

Meh..I tend to disagree. Although it's clearly not all users answering, it sets a pretty good trend for the group that did participate in the poll.

Regardless, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying there aren't issues and there aren't people suffering from issues, but lets be realistic here - statistically speaking, the majority of people who post are those who have problems. It's unlikely you're going to have the large majority who haven't had any issues post about that.

They're too busy off making music.

Statistically speaking, that forum is not normal. The degree of fanboyism over there is off the charts. I've been on a lot of forums, but that one is something else.

....I take that back. I remember a certain Cubase forum that might give it some competition.

The General Forum? Yeah, things can be pretty crazy there. I don't see as much in the User Forum, though. That said, as I mentioned to kmonkey - KVR has our fair share of fanboys as well.

[FaX]

It looks like there wasn't much participation in that poll (roughly 150, out of how many Reason users?). I wonder how many users either didn't see that thread or skipped over it? I skipped it, and most of the names that I remember having problems aren't in the poll. I think that it isn't very meaningful.

Meh..I tend to disagree. Although it's clearly not all users answering, it sets a pretty good trend for the group that did participate in the poll.

Regardless, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying there aren't issues and there aren't people suffering from issues, but lets be realistic here - statistically speaking, the majority of people who post are those who have problems. It's unlikely you're going to have the large majority who haven't had any issues post about that.

They're too busy off making music.

Statistically speaking, that forum is not normal. The degree of fanboyism over there is off the charts. I've been on a lot of forums, but that one is something else.

....I take that back. I remember a certain Cubase forum that might give it some competition.

The General Forum? Yeah, things can be pretty crazy there. I don't see as much in the User Forum, though. That said, as I mentioned to kmonkey - KVR has our fair share of fanboys as well.

The General Forum is blot on the face of humanity and I tend to avoid it like the plague !

[PB2000]

... hard core marginalization of a problem, they where ridiculed and named as not power users or whatever(wtf?). I've just found one thread where person reported some sort of problem after upgrade yet all he got from other users is advice to blame betatesters and to stop whining

Just to be clear, if your response was based on my statement, I wasn't talking about being a "power user" of Reason but of using computers in general. There are a LOT of people that turn a computer on, use an internet browser and check email. If an issue, of any kind, pops up, they don't know the first thing on how to start troubleshooting.

With DAW software, if users don't have some experience with things not always working perfectly, they tend to not know how to change options to get it to work (ie. browser cookies, etc.)

There are more people that fit that description than we may think.

[skipkent]

Are you not using the noise gate on the audio tracks in the mixer? I use a Line 6 HD 500 so I get the additional gate before Reason but really think the internal gate is solid.

That works fine but is pre-fx, so any 'high-gain' distorto nonsense I put together down the line using Reason fx has no effect on the gate. That's what I've found so far anyways, but I'm more than happy if someone can prove me mistaken in that regard.

In Reason, at the very top of an audio track or mix track in the big SSL Mixer there's a section called "INPUT". First you have the GAIN and INV. After that you have a "SIGNAL PATH" section. The first button is called "INSERT PRE" and what it does, when enabled, is that it turns "Insert Section Pre Dynamics and EQ" ON.

In other words. It puts the insert effects of that track before the dynamics and EQ. Sounds like what you're talking about, no?

HEY! Thanks eXode. Unbridled gui-tones in Reason are now under my complete control. I haven't been this happily wrong in a while!

One of these days I'm going to stop typing with my thumbs and reading manuals upside down.

[simesf]

Are you not using the noise gate on the audio tracks in the mixer? I use a Line 6 HD 500 so I get the additional gate before Reason but really think the internal gate is solid.

That works fine but is pre-fx, so any 'high-gain' distorto nonsense I put together down the line using Reason fx has no effect on the gate. That's what I've found so far anyways, but I'm more than happy if someone can prove me mistaken in that regard.

In Reason, at the very top of an audio track or mix track in the big SSL Mixer there's a section called "INPUT". First you have the GAIN and INV. After that you have a "SIGNAL PATH" section. The first button is called "INSERT PRE" and what it does, when enabled, is that it turns "Insert Section Pre Dynamics and EQ" ON.

In other words. It puts the insert effects of that track before the dynamics and EQ. Sounds like what you're talking about, no?

HEY! Thanks eXode. Unbridled gui-tones in Reason are now under my complete control. I haven't been this happily wrong in a while!

One of these days I'm going to stop typing with my thumbs and reading manuals upside down.

Hey! Skipkent and eXode; the two people on kvr capable of settling a minor difference in a mature and friendly way. Look and learn people, look and learn.

[EnochLight]

Hey! Skipkent and eXode; the two people on kvr capable of settling a minor difference in a mature and friendly way. Look and learn people, look and learn.

+10.

[sellyoursoul]

The General forum? Ha! The General forum is like the little sister of the User forum, over there. At least the General forum has some mix of the general public to help squelch the flaming fanboyism that is the User forum. If I sound like I might be exaggerating a bit, you obviously either a) are a one-celled organism, or b) haven't had the pleasure of visiting the User forum.

But it does make for some form of entertainment.

Now, can we let this thread die a timely death? Please? Edit: Before we attract more Users over here.

[EnochLight]

Disagree entirely, but to each their own I suppose.

Now, can we let this thread die a timely death? Please? Edit: Before we attract more Users over here.

Jeez man, was that really necessary? You're gonna' hurt a girl's feelings, and stuff.

[sellyoursoul]

Disagree entirely, but to each their own I suppose.

Now, can we let this thread die a timely death? Please? Edit: Before we attract more Users over here.

Jeez man, was that really necessary? You're gonna' hurt a girl's feelings, and stuff.

This thread has been going for too long as it is, and attracting members of another forum isn't helping anything. There is very little information about Reason itself in this thread, but there are many off-topic discussions within it. A member here started a thread about this thread, sarcastically suggesting a new forum area for this thread, because he was tired of seeing it ride the top of the forum. I agree. The only reason that it is staying at the top is back and forth bickering. This thread is serving no good purpose for anyone. The RE party is over. Did everyone have a good time? I know that I did.

[Robert Randolph]

Disagree entirely, but to each their own I suppose.

Now, can we let this thread die a timely death? Please? Edit: Before we attract more Users over here.

Jeez man, was that really necessary? You're gonna' hurt a girl's feelings, and stuff.

This thread has been going for too long as it is, and attracting members of another forum isn't helping anything. There is very little information about Reason itself in this thread, but there are many off-topic discussions within it. A member here started a thread about this thread, sarcastically suggesting a new forum area for this thread, because he was tired of seeing it ride the top of the forum. I agree. The only reason that it is staying at the top is back and forth bickering. This thread is serving no good purpose for anyone. The RE party is over. Did everyone have a good time? I know that I did.

Uh, you haven't read the whole thread have you?

There's been quite a few people who've had questions answered, and been helped.

[sellyoursoul]

Disagree entirely, but to each their own I suppose.

Now, can we let this thread die a timely death? Please? Edit: Before we attract more Users over here.

Jeez man, was that really necessary? You're gonna' hurt a girl's feelings, and stuff.

This thread has been going for too long as it is, and attracting members of another forum isn't helping anything. There is very little information about Reason itself in this thread, but there are many off-topic discussions within it. A member here started a thread about this thread, sarcastically suggesting a new forum area for this thread, because he was tired of seeing it ride the top of the forum. I agree. The only reason that it is staying at the top is back and forth bickering. This thread is serving no good purpose for anyone. The RE party is over. Did everyone have a good time? I know that I did.

Uh, you haven't read the whole thread have you?

There's been quite a few people who've had questions answered, and been helped.

Uh, every page, unfortunately, and it's not exactly been an informational thread.