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jontah · Post by **jontah** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:56 am

Hi!

I've always been fascinated by how Madeon did this live mashup..

So many songs, placed in a creative way.

I've wondered.. if I'd like to do something similar, how could I know that all the samples that I'm using is fitting into the same key?

He uses 49 songs, he must have transposed them or something? Anyone got any suggestions of doing this?

Thanks.

MrMagneto · Post by **MrMagneto** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:24 am

I've wondered.. if I'd like to do something similar, how could I know that all the samples that I'm using is fitting into the same key?

by using your ears and judge yourself. If you have an average hearing, you will notice a "wrong" key right away. It will sound disharmonic.

He uses 49 songs, he must have transposed them or something? Anyone got any suggestions of doing this?

Ableton has a nice transpose fader. You can use it to go up and down in half-steps until you find the pitch that is right.

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:55 pm

MrMagneto wrote:
I've wondered.. if I'd like to do something similar, how could I know that all the samples that I'm using is fitting into the same key?
by using your ears and judge yourself. If you have an average hearing, you will notice a "wrong" key right away. It will sound disharmonic.

He uses 49 songs, he must have transposed them or something? Anyone got any suggestions of doing this?
Ableton has a nice transpose fader. You can use it to go up and down in half-steps until you find the pitch that is right.

Yes ofcourse.. but 49 songs? really? I find it kinda strange because it's the most popular songs out there aswell.. he must have transposed it, or? (but it doesn't sound transposed to me, that's the strange thing!)

MrMagneto · Post by **MrMagneto** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:03 pm

You can transpose but keep the transients, that will sound more natural. On the other hand: he possibly had a collection of some hundreds of song samples. It's not hard to find 49 with some fitting notes ...especially if you also count in percussive loops and non-harmonic material (simple notes like the britney piano sample).
You can try yourself: get some acapellas and just throw them over some instrumentals. You'll be surprised how easy it is to find material that fits together ...even without transposing.

nineofkings · Post by **nineofkings** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:15 pm

That's one technique DJs use a lot to avoid transposing - mixing harmonically. If the keys of the samples are related, say by a perfect 5th, bits of each will line up and be in key with each other.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:28 pm

Why dont you PM him, hes a member here and at the Fruityloops forum.

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:48 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Why dont you PM him, hes a member here and at the Fruityloops forum.

lol doubt he'll even response or even look, he's getting really famous atm, this kid's future is really blowing up.

Alright I'll try around. Thanks for the advices.. though I was looking for something more like transposing, but maybe I'm wrong..

Also, Ableton's built in transpose really sounds horrible, and changes the time of the audioclips if I have any.

MrMagneto · Post by **MrMagneto** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:22 pm

I think you should look bit into it and maybe read the ableton manual where it explains the different warping modes (tone, texture, complex,...). I can't complain about the ableton functions.

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:39 pm

MrMagneto wrote:I think you should look bit into it and maybe read the ableton manual where it explains the different warping modes (tone, texture, complex,...). I can't complain about the ableton functions.

I know Ableton inside and out, been looking for tutorials for the past 2 years.. I guess I'm too afraid to get things going wrong.. I've never been good at hearing things or if it's in key etc.. that's one of my minuses :/

EDIT: you are right, I probably had it in the wrong warpmode when trying this.. my bad.

martinwaite · Post by **martinwaite** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:09 pm

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Hi, there's a thing called mixed in key http://www.mixedinkey.com/?gclid=COrLyq ... fAodAXXqNw (http://www.mixedinkey.com/?gclid=COrLyqf__bACFVMTfAodAXXqNw)
Drag and drop any audio file into it and it will tell you what key it is in. Hope that helps, I use it for dj'ing. Saves a lot of time

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:44 pm

jontah wrote:I know Ableton inside and out

If you don't know how to change the pitch without affecting the tempo, then you clearly don't know Live inside out. It's one of Live's most basic functions ... and essential when making mashups.

If you like Madeon, you may like DJ Earworm http://djearworm.com/

morgantaylormusic · Post by **morgantaylormusic** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:44 pm

you think thats good check out madeons newest minimix like 90 songs in 5 mins. kid is not human

jontah · Post by **jontah** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:34 am

yeah madeon truely is a kind when doing this..

question, is logic or ableton better for doing this type of stuff?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:47 am

jontah wrote:yeah madeon truely is a kind when doing this..

question, is logic or ableton better for doing this type of stuff?

I think Madeon's using Live with a Launchpad and ReMOTE Zero SL. I've always used Live to make my mashups. It's the perfect software for it ...

Madeon, 49 songs fitting the same key? how?