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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:40 am reply with quote
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I'm kind of tee'd off about Sweetwater's 'price match' guarantee. Best Service has Omnisphere for $385.00. Sweetwater has for $479.00 and I called them and asked if they would match it. At first he was - where? I told him, and he says he never heard of Best Service. I told him Best Service was British and had been around forever and I'd ordered from them before. He said, Well, they will charge you $50.00 to ship it here. I told him, no. I didn't think so, because I'd ordered before and shipping was very reasonable. He just finally said(very gruffly) NO. I can't match that price. Sure enough I go on the BS website and there it is - We charge a flat rate of 10 euros for shipping to the U.S.
Freaking idiot.
Yeah, you'll price match that.


I didn't' even know SW did price matching.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:41 am reply with quote
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I told him Best Service was British


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:45 am reply with quote
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Krakatau wrote:
zvenx wrote:
of course you can osiris........you can choose a different sample or even change from a simple to a built in oscillator (some of the editing parameters will change of course)....... this is nothing like nexus.... I guess the rompler rumour lives on.......

rsp


As far as i could investigate, i don't think you can choose a single sample, except if the sample editing stage a choosen patch uses a single sample, but it's somehow a patch that you'd choose in the soundsource browser, not a sample

You cannot pick a single sample or another into a multisampled instrument like in a mandolin's tremolo for instance

Though they are a huge palette of treatments, there is clearly a stage in a so to say "sample editing mode" in where you don't have the ability to modify anything in the articulations that whasn't previously defined by the sound designer

In the case i would be mistaken on that point. i'll be glad to be able to tweak deeper in Omnisphere, but i doubt of it, unfortunately ...



Confused


Hi, I am a bit confused.
did I suggest you choose choose a single sample from a multisampled source file?
rsp


well, probably i didn't read your post carefully...sorry, i'd better not choose yours especially

Embarassed

...the fact is though that, on that particular aspect, Omnisphere is indeed, working as a rompler !

I suspect there might be some copyright issue related to the soundsource patches that perhaps rules such a situation...

Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:46 am reply with quote
Well, you know. Not here. I couldn't believe he'd never heard of Best Service.
And, it's not like my 'personal service rep' doesn't call me out of the blue and ask if I'm all set for stuff. Maybe I need to call him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:09 am reply with quote
Krakatau wrote:
zvenx wrote:
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Hi, I am a bit confused.
did I suggest you choose choose a single sample from a multisampled source file?
rsp


well, probably i didn't read your post carefully...sorry, i'd better not choose yours especially

Embarassed

...the fact is though that, on that particular aspect, Omnisphere is indeed, working as a rompler !

I suspect there might be some copyright issue related to the soundsource patches that perhaps rules such a situation...

Smile


no problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:23 pm reply with quote
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I'm kind of tee'd off about Sweetwater's 'price match' guarantee. Best Service has Omnisphere for $385.00. Sweetwater has for $479.00 and I called them and asked if they would match it. At first he was - where? I told him, and he says he never heard of Best Service. I told him Best Service was British and had been around forever and I'd ordered from them before. He said, Well, they will charge you $50.00 to ship it here. I told him, no. I didn't think so, because I'd ordered before and shipping was very reasonable. He just finally said(very gruffly) NO. I can't match that price. Sure enough I go on the BS website and there it is - We charge a flat rate of 10 euros for shipping to the U.S.
Freaking idiot.
Yeah, you'll price match that.

Are you in the market for Omnisphere or were you just conducting an experiment? Did you also want SW's additional benefits for the same price? Omnisphere is available elsewhere for less $.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:41 am reply with quote
I found it on Amazon new for 375.00. Oh, I caved. Will be here by the 27th hyper

I didn't see the line at the bottom of Best Service page saying 'we can only ship Spectrasonics items to: ' and it lists like 4 countries. Not the USA.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:09 pm reply with quote
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I found it on Amazon new for 375.00. Oh, I caved. Will be here by the 27th hyper

I didn't see the line at the bottom of Best Service page saying 'we can only ship Spectrasonics items to: ' and it lists like 4 countries. Not the USA.

Me too. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:43 pm reply with quote
Just tracked my shipment and to my surprise it will be here tomorrow Wednesday 7/12/12.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:04 am reply with quote
Got mine yesterday. Install took around 45 minutes. Authorization was really easy. The boxed version was 1.04. I updated and then found out you have to re-authorize and the code didn't work. Spectrasonics makes it idiot proof. Requested another code and they wanted to know why, and the reason was right there in the little drop down box provided.
Still haven;t seen the Orb thing, but the 64 bit is rock solid. I did everything I could to crash it. Nope. Loads are really fast (but I think this computer;s fast) I had hell with messages telling me the STEAM folder didn't have read/write priveleges, even though everything would work. But, I followed the instructions provided and finally managed to deal with it. Soundwise Shit!
(anyone want to buy Nexus, cheap Wink )

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:29 am reply with quote
I'm sorry, did someone say "Omnisphere 2"?

[blink blink]

I have trouble imagining such a thing. Omnisphere is really solid as-is... though I can imagine a few updates and (of course) new libraries... I can't imagine an overhaul so deep they would use a "2.0" moniker. ...though if history repeats itself, they would just give it another name... like... hyperüberspheregemeinshaftzimmer or something. (The name "Omnisphere" is actually my least favorite aspect of Omnisphere. Stupid name.) My vote would be to drop the prefix-y thing. Just call it "Sphere".

That said, I would have said Omnisphere was "feature complete" two years ago, and then they released the Orb... so clearly there's room for improvement. And the idea of Omnisphere 2 is tempting to give some consideration to and I don't mind hijacking the thread to do it.

...What, if anything, would you like to see in Omnisphere 2?

[ponder] My wishlist (after much consideration, but not in order):

    Speed up the overall load time for the synth... more generally, make the whole thing feel more agile/fluid.
    Vector Synthesis: "remember" four parameter settings for each pole (N/W/E/W) of the Orb or something like it that allows morphing between them.
    License Waldorf's (and U-he's... and Access's, yeah right) filters and add them to the list. :)
    Improve the reverb. Yes, the Ambience-like reverb is nice, but it's not nice enough, IMO. I'd actually like to see modulatable convolution, like Reflektor's.
    Four layers per patch. ...Yeah, I know, that might be overkill. I'd take three. I find I want at least a third, though, and using the mixer doesn't cut it for me... sometimes I just want to add a little noise or something to a good patch. I would gladly sacrifice the separate filters per layer for this (though I would ask that we get two shared filters in that case with good routing).
    Transients (short samples triggered on note down). I love transients. They add so much... more synths need them.
    Wavetable mode: akin to start position, but just plays a single-cycle wave from the indicated position index instead.
    Diva's "Trimmers" page. Heh. :)
    Feedback would be awesome (I'm thinking of Massive, here).
    Trilian has the ability to create a "mini-synth" by putting params on the Main tab... I would love to see the same thing for Omnisphere.
    Bigger GUI. Yes, I know, it's already large, but it still feels cramped, since there's so much going on. Not to keep pointing to U-He's synths, but I love the sizability of them, and I think Omnisphere needs that.


I STILL wouldn't want user-loadable samples in Omnisphere 2. It's not in the spirit of the synth, IMO.[list=][/list]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:43 am reply with quote
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I STILL wouldn't want user-loadable samples in Omnisphere 2. It's not in the spirit of the synth, IMO.[list=][/list]


As a sample mangler, i would regret this,,,

...but that's life !
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:34 pm reply with quote
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...I STILL wouldn't want user-loadable samples in Omnisphere 2. It's not in the spirit of the synth, IMO.

Even though I do not know what several of the things you listed actually represent (I don't get the appreciation for a vast bass synth experience like Trilian but to each their own) I think adding your own samples is good feature and one that people such as yourself could just ignore and the world would not end. Why not have this ability available to those that would use it? What does that cost anyone who is against such a thing? I don't think anyone except Eric Persing can define Omnisphere in terms of what it is and will become. If left up to users we would not have anything like Omnisphere and would only have more of what is not Omnisphere. Eric has the mind and eye for where this project will go and I am happy that that is not left up to everyone else to determine. After all, look what he has done on his own.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:33 pm reply with quote
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hello.

ive read at the omnisphere site that importing your own samples would be implemented in a future update. did it ever happened ?


link saying this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:08 am reply with quote
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    Speed up the overall load time for the synth... more generally, make the whole thing feel more agile/fluid.
    Vector Synthesis: "remember" four parameter settings for each pole (N/W/E/W) of the Orb or something like it that allows morphing between them.
    License Waldorf's (and U-he's... and Access's, yeah right) filters and add them to the list. Smile
    Improve the reverb. Yes, the Ambience-like reverb is nice, but it's not nice enough, IMO. I'd actually like to see modulatable convolution, like Reflektor's.
    Four layers per patch. ...Yeah, I know, that might be overkill. I'd take three. I find I want at least a third, though, and using the mixer doesn't cut it for me... sometimes I just want to add a little noise or something to a good patch. I would gladly sacrifice the separate filters per layer for this (though I would ask that we get two shared filters in that case with good routing).
    Transients (short samples triggered on note down). I love transients. They add so much... more synths need them.
    Wavetable mode: akin to start position, but just plays a single-cycle wave from the indicated position index instead.
    Diva's "Trimmers" page. Heh. Smile
    Feedback would be awesome (I'm thinking of Massive, here).
    Trilian has the ability to create a "mini-synth" by putting params on the Main tab... I would love to see the same thing for Omnisphere.
    Bigger GUI. Yes, I know, it's already large, but it still feels cramped, since there's so much going on. Not to keep pointing to U-He's synths, but I love the sizability of them, and I think Omnisphere needs that.


I STILL wouldn't want user-loadable samples in Omnisphere 2. It's not in the spirit of the synth, IMO.[list=][/list]


That's a great list, and the first one - speeding it all up - would also be top of my list. The sluggish GUI is probably my biggest gripe. A reverb like AAR and 4 layers per patch would be up there too.
The only request I'd add is backwards/forwards arrows for stuff like the filters - it's quickly gets frustrating ATM doing sound design having to constantly navigate the drop down menus.
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