Maybe second hand or next time its on sale. I do like the look of it. When it was first release the only video I saw was the one with that horrible song they had. It's still there. *shudders*

Anyway. Tried out Stutter, it may sound childish, but these days unless a program is immediately accessible I don't bother with it.

I don't mind complexity, but if in general it doesn't look obvious the first time I open it I don't usually open it again.

Sugar Bytes aren't doing the friendship scheme anymore
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=311830&start=6 0

Stutter Edit is triggered by midi notes either using a midi controller or just inputting notes into a midi track. I didn't find it too difficult to set up in Reaper because iZotope have tutorials for all the hosts including Reaper. They are one of the few developers to actually have a Reaper tutorial.

TBH Sugar Bytes are totally useless when it comes to offering discounts to previous customers. Their friendship scheme was a farce that got abused which serves them right. I say this as a customer who owns two of their rather expensive plugins. It put me right off buying any more of their products in future unless they're on sale.

Just wondering but how did it get abused? People taking advantage of a discount that was out there? They had to have realized no one really has that many musician friends that would even be remotely interested in some plugin company so they should have expected random forum people to start sharing invites, I dont really consider that abuse at all, unless it was something else

Anyways I picked up turnado during the sale+friendship discount. I had been on the fence everytime there was a sale on it since everytime I demo'd it I loved it but just kept thinking 'oh I can do that if I start combining this+this+this etc'. Broke down the last time I got and Im definitely happy I did, its incredibly easy to come up with happy accidents all the time with it

I tested out their plugins, and I found the plugins have great ideas but they don't really sound as good as stuff you could make or get in Reaktor.

So for the price of one or two of their plugins you could buy Reaktor and get the Twisted Tools ensembles which sound ALOT better imo

This is pretty interesting, thank you. Are there setups from users so the 'one knob" can play with other effects besides those from SB?

They didn't go into details about how it got abused but it was probably an excuse not to carry it on. I ended up buying Cyclop full price because it was so difficult finding someone who would follow up the friend referral. After I bought it someone did wanted a referral but by then SB had shut it down. I really hope it hit SB in the pocket after all the inconvenience they put me through.

That partly answers my question. The answer is probably, no, otherwise people with software which could play with SB would otherwise have taken you up on your offer.

Maybe if they do create a working interface with another music tool, you'll be able to get a friend purchase for another tool in the future )

They support midi, the 'one knob' would just be the dictator slider. In the most recent update they added midi output of each of the individual 8 knobs for each effect as outputs for cc1-cc8. So you could direct the midi output to anything else and map those cc's to whatever you want

Thank you. cc is ok for some parameters, but they'd need NRPNs for others, (maybe the knobs are too limited in resolution range), and it needa a midi remapper. So it's manual mapping and a little limited.

Does it support cc64-69 in any way too?

By Sample editing, it's very easy but just time consuming. You can do it with any sampler and most audio editing tool.

I use to use a Roland SP303. (I still have it infact, has a cool effects section.)
The track I'm working on at the moment has both manual edits (Cubase) and VST automation (ArtilleryII) .