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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 pm reply with quote
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I can completely understand wanting a full computer for a tablet, however stating tablets like the iPad or Android tablets are "toys" is extremely short-sighted, and makes me think you've never really spent any considerable time with one.

I admit it, but it's not my fault. I have an iPod Touch, which I use exclusively to listen to music - I tried some apps, and I gave up, because I simply lost interest. It's great for listening to music, and to see the weather forecasts, and that's it. I tried the iPad, and I saw nothing there appealing either - I felt like I had a gigantic smartphone (or iPod). The little time spent with it didn't make me want more - for what it does, I prefer the iPod Touch. And it always stunned me how people can be enthusiastic with a synth that, if released in Mac OS or Windows, would be simply something to laugh at. Why would that be different in an iPad?
I know Android also from the smartphones too, and I think it's OK... for smartphones. I would never consider making any serious work in something like that either.
So, there's only Mac OS and Windows. Since there isn't a tablet that works like a real computer with Mac OS, the answer is easy... if I ever need a tablet, which I don't think I will anyway Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:40 pm reply with quote
fmr wrote:
polaris20 wrote:

I can completely understand wanting a full computer for a tablet, however stating tablets like the iPad or Android tablets are "toys" is extremely short-sighted, and makes me think you've never really spent any considerable time with one.

I admit it, but it's not my fault. I have an iPod Touch, which I use exclusively to listen to music - I tried some apps, and I gave up, because I simply lost interest. It's great for listening to music, and to see the weather forecasts, and that's it. I tried the iPad, and I saw nothing there appealing either - I felt like I had a gigantic smartphone (or iPod). The little time spent with it didn't make me want more - for what it does, I prefer the iPod Touch. And it always stunned me how people can be enthusiastic with a synth that, if released in Mac OS or Windows, would be simply something to laugh at. Why would that be different in an iPad?
I know Android also from the smartphones too, and I think it's OK... for smartphones. I would never consider making any serious work in something like that either.
So, there's only Mac OS and Windows. Since there isn't a tablet that works like a real computer with Mac OS, the answer is easy... if I ever need a tablet, which I don't think I will anyway Wink


To each their own, and all. No one has to like everything. But like I said, it's not deserving to call it a toy, when so many things can ably be done with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:52 pm reply with quote
The Lenovo has the next gen atom processor - Clover Trail (successor to Medfield) - at its heart. And there are plenty more with this design coming.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/06/clover_trail_intel_t ablet_plans/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57433269-92/intel-windows-8 -tablets-to-hit-retail-stores-in-november/

http://www.windows8-release.net/news/report-windows-8-tablet s-to-arrive-in-november/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/260614/lenovo_kicks_off_windo ws_8_devices_with_thinkpad_tablet_2.html

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/127513-the-premature-de mise-of-windows-8-on-arm-courtesy-of-intels-medfield

I haven't found any direct performance comparisons between Ivy Bridge ULV and Clover Trail SOC machines running Win 8 (x86) but that is where the competition is going to be in these small light form factor versions of full Wintel machines. After Clover Trail, a 22nm shrink - Bay Trail - will follow it seems - maybe next year.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:01 am reply with quote
egbert wrote:
The Lenovo has the next gen atom processor - Clover Trail (successor to Medfield) - at its heart. And there are plenty more with this design coming.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/06/clover_trail_intel_t ablet_plans/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57433269-92/intel-windows-8 -tablets-to-hit-retail-stores-in-november/

http://www.windows8-release.net/news/report-windows-8-tablet s-to-arrive-in-november/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/260614/lenovo_kicks_off_windo ws_8_devices_with_thinkpad_tablet_2.html

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/127513-the-premature-de mise-of-windows-8-on-arm-courtesy-of-intels-medfield

I haven't found any direct performance comparisons between Ivy Bridge ULV and Clover Trail SOC machines running Win 8 (x86) but that is where the competition is going to be in these small light form factor versions of full Wintel machines. After Clover Trail, a 22nm shrink - Bay Trail - will follow it seems - maybe next year.


Have you found any information on pricing for the Thinkpad 2?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:23 am reply with quote
polaris20 wrote:
egbert wrote:
The Lenovo has the next gen atom processor - Clover Trail (successor to Medfield) - at its heart. And there are plenty more with this design coming.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/06/clover_trail_intel_t ablet_plans/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57433269-92/intel-windows-8 -tablets-to-hit-retail-stores-in-november/

http://www.windows8-release.net/news/report-windows-8-tablet s-to-arrive-in-november/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/260614/lenovo_kicks_off_windo ws_8_devices_with_thinkpad_tablet_2.html

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/127513-the-premature-de mise-of-windows-8-on-arm-courtesy-of-intels-medfield

I haven't found any direct performance comparisons between Ivy Bridge ULV and Clover Trail SOC machines running Win 8 (x86) but that is where the competition is going to be in these small light form factor versions of full Wintel machines. After Clover Trail, a 22nm shrink - Bay Trail - will follow it seems - maybe next year.


Have you found any information on pricing for the Thinkpad 2?

No - haven't been looking. I am in Australia so local pricing will probably differ from your part of the world.
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