You owe me yet another irony mirror.

What face do I need to save? I have no need to reframe the things I've said to you.

you are using language to try and make having at a person appear to have the pretext of criticism of music, a music which you would not have any taste for in the first place.

you're attacking me. I'm not so magnanimous I won't push back. You made the choice to have at me and enter into this. You have to keep justfying yourself to me but as though you are disinterested?

There is no point in anything you've done here but to be 'caustic'. that irony is not lost.

I see, so you don't think that you have a tendency to exaggerate in a nasty way?



So that's not just nasty exaggeration? Do you really wonder why people don't engage you point by point (for very long)? Really?



...in you continuing to rant and seriously expecting a blow by blow response?

I agree!

No. I have no need to walk that back. The backstory here is I intensely dislike your idea of things, the stupid argumentation to lend reinforcment to people trying to delude themselves into the idea that not being involved with music is as good as doing so, particularly.

You can say it's nasty, but pot meet kettle. You do not evidence *much* knowledge. The term know-nothing is obviously a bit of hyperbole. In the context of the shit you say here, no, I have no need to try and put a frame around such a remark to make it something else, which is what you do from the outset. You represent the Knowo-Nothing 'feeling their stupidity was attacked, they protested noisily', reactionary, stupid mentality, to me here. Am I being clear enough?

Do I expect you to counter all of what I said? No, I expect exactly the quality of your latest post here. Per people I know to have the opposite POV as mine do I wonder about, for instance when they'll get personal? No. I'm not typically surprised.

I would rather type out my thoughts and get them off my chest. Who cares about these thoughts but you? perhaps it's a bit of entertainment to someone on a soap opera kind of level. Yes it is all a bit of pointless rancor and back and forth. Congratulations, good job, troll!
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Sounds like we agree, I'm going to call that progress.



Moving towards wild agreement now.

PS: I noticed that you backpedaled on your "serious music" claim earlier, referring to it now as, oh I can't remember, something easier to defend than your brasher earlier edit, I hope you don't mind, I'm going to just go with the "serious music" quote. It's way more fun.
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call it a win, bringing me down this closely to your own level!

IBTL! lol

This is serious music. Quote me. This is challenging music. I think 'substantive' amplified the point I was after if anything actually. I'm more or less practicing writing with such edits.
[EDIT! I think 'substantive' is more nasty! IE: You aren't substantial here! FTR: The original statement was you have no business commenting on serious music.

[this music] is also entertaining to me and will be to people with more or less my own level of interest in music objectively.

Look, I'll be perfectly clear: I think this is SUPERLATIVE music, fantastic, excellent, I'm in love with every move in this. Brash enough? There are truly excellent people that think the same about it, which is no surprise at all to me. I couldn't hardly be more confident about my work at this point.

I know this is at an extremely high level of craft. That is not a defensive statement, that is a statement in the positive. This is simply great music. You can try and tear that down all you like, give it all you got. "It's way more fun!"
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very cool, nice tense areas. has a classical something to it, actually pictured a symphony performing it. hmm, on the other hand it does sound like the soundtrack to older space cartoons.

Very nice and interesting track! I'm not sure if I sould grab a Heineken, or my death ray...or both.

thanks wavephonic and mr.me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhiofL2Rh4


the reason tv/film music for weird effect, going back half a century or more, sounds like it does is composers looked to people like Varese for the vocabulary, the specific effects... so it's fun to present music like this in that kind of frame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMclF11PSV0&feature=my_liked_ videos&list=LL-yFy6xYidrt2ND5_jwE3wQ


("if you're gonna be a composer, the first guy you gotta please is yourself. and you have to be ready, willing and able to take the risk that everybody will hate what you do. if you're ready to do that, go to the library... learn that, & write whatever comes into your brain! and just be prepared for people to hate your ass!")
30:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-HyfeF6zFA&feature=related