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What do you (experienced users) use for mixing/mastering in Mulab?
The demos on the Mulab page are, supposedly, 100% created in Mulab. Does this mean no 3rd party mixing/mastering plugins where used either? What do ppl use and in what order exactly to come up with that final product? Is there also some good (free) spectrum analyzer/graphic equalizer with which you can see whether all frequencies are properly balanced so you can see what needs to be adjusted in order to have rich, evenly, spread frequencies? |
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| ^ | Joined: 19 May 2012 Member: #280729 | ||
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If you don't care about 64bit here is a great deal:
http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?product id=36-CWSF3.31-10E $19.99 from $279.01 
Super quality. ---- MuLab 4, Studio One v2. In that order. |
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| ^ | Joined: 30 May 2006 Member: #108991 Location: US / Italy | ||
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I really like this. I just bought it and I'm amazed at what it does on the master bus...
6144 eq http://www.ddmf.eu/product.php?id=2&gclid=CIyh4IzH-bECFQs5nA odelcAag ----  |
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| ^ | Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Member: #4292 Location: "somewhere between digital and analog" | ||
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DHR53 wrote: I really like this. I just bought it and I'm amazed at what it does on the master bus...
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6144 eq http://www.ddmf.eu/product.php?id=2&gclid=CIyh4IzH-bECFQs5nA odelcAag If I may add for MuLab(which I think it has everything you need AND of high quality out of he box), the following little gems: http://www.toneboosters.com/trackessentials/ ---- MuLab 4, Studio One v2. In that order. |
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| ^ | Joined: 30 May 2006 Member: #108991 Location: US / Italy | ||
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megalodonnl wrote: What do you (experienced users) use for mixing/mastering in Mulab?
The demos on the Mulab page are, supposedly, 100% created in Mulab. Does this mean no 3rd party mixing/mastering plugins where used either? What do ppl use and in what order exactly to come up with that final product? Is there also some good (free) spectrum analyzer/graphic equalizer with which you can see whether all frequencies are properly balanced so you can see what needs to be adjusted in order to have rich, evenly, spread frequencies? First of all: Please do yourself a favour and say goodbye to the wish of "seeing frequencies balanced"... Sound is really nothing to see... You can use a spectrum analyzer to identify problematic frequencies more easily, but you'll never see a balanced or not balanced result... A very good free spectrum analyzer is SPAN: http://www.voxengo.com/product/span/ With SPAN you can even compare 2 different signals in one instance A very very good free effect suite are the free ones from Cockos : http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/reaplugs20-install.exe Great, flexible and free... really no need to buy any additional stuff A very very good and free brickwall limiter is W1 from George Yohng... this is easily on pair with the famous L1 from Waves (which it emulates...): http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html It doesn't come with it's own GUI, but don't get fooled by that... With these plugins, your are really good to go, but...if you haven't already...like with all tools (and all expensive plugins)... you have to learn how to use them correctly, otherwise you'll get not the wanted result... Hope this helps a bit... |
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OK, thanks for the replies. With balanced I didn't mean totally balanced, but I did notice that pro music often has quite a rich, widespread, spectrum. |
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Did not know about these... Look great. DLd now. ---- |
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| ^ | Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Member: #4292 Location: "somewhere between digital and analog" | ||
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megalodonnl wrote: OK, thanks for the replies. With balanced I didn't mean totally balanced, but I did notice that pro music often has quite a rich, widespread, spectrum.
Yes of course, but this is not the result of certain tools... it is in first place: 1. The most important part: Choosing the right sounds!!!! It's easy to get fooled by overblown presets in nowadays... they sound very good if they are playing on their own, but for using them in a dense mix, they are too "big" on their own... Choosing sounds, which fit well together, is 90% of the whole mixing story!!! Choosing the right sounds, setting the volume and panning correctly is minimum 95% of the whole mixing/mastering story... No pro tool of the world will remove errors you made with the basics before!!! 2. Knowing the tools inside out... Most of available EQ's, Dynamics etc. are 99% equal in sound quality, no matter, what advertising and fanboys of xyz tell you... If you know how to use your EQ, you will be able to achieve 99,9% of all available EQ's on the market... Those "modeled famous gear" ones do nothing else but cheating a little bit by using a little bit of saturation here and there... nothing you cannot reach by using seperate saturation plugins like Mulab's internal one... Trust me... I have tried nearly every available product... none of them do magic... it's all about knowing!!!! Wasn't there a famous and very true sentence in the first Matrix (dunno, if it was the same in english  ): "Knowing... not believing!!!
The only "Pro" thingie I found sometimes on more expensive plugins: The GUI ... some are just a little bit easier to use... but that was all and in favour for only a better GUI I don't pay a few hundred bucks... |
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Excellent advice Trancit thanks |
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Yes thanks and you seem to be correct. |
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you can download those projects and inspect the internals i believe |
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| ^ | Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Member: #54204 Location: Detroit | ||
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> DiGiT < wrote: you can download those projects and inspect the internals i believe
This I don't understand... can you explain this a little bit further??? |
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| ^ | Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Member: #34695 | ||
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you can download the projects and open them up in mulab and inspect the methods used to mix etc |
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| ^ | Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Member: #54204 Location: Detroit | ||
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for freeware spectrum analyzer and graphic equalizer look at:
http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Bundle_FreewarePack/ all plugins available for OSX, Win32 and Win64 |
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| ^ | Joined: 26 Jul 2012 Member: #284900 | ||
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> DiGiT < wrote: you can download the projects and open them up in mulab and inspect the methods used to mix etc
Of course you can with songs made in MuLab... megalodonnl spoke about pro music... I guess he didn't mean songs, downloadable for MuLab... |
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