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Making MuLab More Obvious & Easy

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KVRAF
 
5502 posts since 24 Jun, 2008, from Europe
    

Postby mutools; Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:26 am

Of course you can! In fact all the MuTools presets you see when clicking on an empty rack slot are all MUX presets. To start from an 'empty' MUX select the MuTools -> Factory -> Effects -> Devices -> Basic Effect. Open the deep editor and there you go.
KVRist
 
73 posts since 24 Nov, 2010

Postby BrokenTrance; Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:31 am

Ok got it.
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Postby > DiGiT <; Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:11 pm

in this example a mux tree would assist with comprehension methinks
KVRist
 
423 posts since 29 Jan, 2007

Postby torgo; Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:36 pm

Greetings from a former Muzys customer who is now checking out MuLab 4 Free and will probably purchase MuLab 5 once it's out.

The thing that jumps out at me about MuLab above all else is that it's so easy to use, especially for setting up tracks to play VST instruments. Click the plus sign, choose Instrument track, choose your instrument, and you're off and running - with an easily identified rack all set to add effects. OUTSTANDING!

Whatever you do with upcoming versions, please don't take away that ease of use.

Other DAWs have cool instruments and effects too. Yours stands out because even beginners can be up and recording quickly, spending their time playing music rather than digging through manuals to figure out how to use the thing.
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KVRist
 
471 posts since 4 Oct, 2012, from Utah
    

Postby dakkra; Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:23 pm

torgo wrote:Other DAWs have cool instruments and effects too. Yours stands out because even beginners can be up and recording quickly, spending their time playing music rather than digging through manuals to figure out how to use the thing.


Not to mention you can build your own synth/effect in the MUX
KVRist
 
423 posts since 29 Jan, 2007

Postby torgo; Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:29 am

Making my own synth/effects is a cool feature, but at least for me it's not something that jumps out the way that MuLab's ease of use does.

It also falls under the "other DAWs have cool built in stuff too" category. I have the FL Studio Signature bundle, for example, so I can already build my own synths using FL Synthmaker.



On the other hand, I converted an old computer into a music machine for my nephew. I gave it to him last night.

I had already bought Sonar X1 LE and put it on there. Since I have been tinkering with MuLab 4 Free this week, I threw it on there for him as well.

I showed him that he had Sonar, briefly demonstrated what it was, and also showed him the folder where I had put the series of tutorial videos and other documentation for it.



Then we opened up MuLab 4 Free. We didn't have documentation or videos on it, and there wasn't much in the way of internet access at Grandma's house. But that didn't matter.

In about 10 minutes, we had started a project, added the SI-drums (came with Sonar) on an instrument track, loaded in a Groove Monkee MIDI drum groove, added a second instrument track with a piano from the Cakewalk Sound Center (also in Sonar), played piano along with our drums, and then added a Boss SD-1 overdrive pedal and Marshall JCM900 guitar amp (both from CM magazine), shredding that piano and cranking out the opening riff of "Smoke On The Water".

Yes, he had my help - I had already done the basic setup to select the ASIO driver and USB MIDI connector and pointed it to the place where I had put the VST plugins folder back when I set up Sonar. I showed him that he had the MIDI drum loops and audio loops (they're stashed in a Cakewalk folder since they came with Sonar) and explained a few plugins - like filling him in that "JCM900" was the name of a guitar amp.

But he didn't need much help with MuLab itself. He simply dove in and started playing and recording. And that was the very first time the kid had ever even *seen* a workstation program.

You just can't be off and running that fast with Cubase, Sonar, FL Studio, Pro Tools, etc, even if you're an adult and have played with sequencers for years.
KVRist
 
423 posts since 29 Jan, 2007

Postby torgo; Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:45 pm

One other thing I always loved about the old Muzys and am happy to see in MuLab: it's a portable app.

You don't have to "install" it, and it doesn't muck about with the Windows registry in any way. Installing it simply means copying/moving its folder to wherever you want it. To uninstall it, just delete the folder.


That has me looking forward to trying it out with WINE on a Linux system.
KVRist
 
439 posts since 26 Jul, 2001, from france
 

Postby pquenin; Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:52 pm

I have already asked this and got no answer : I wonder why the way of drawing curves is not the same for midi CC and parameter automation (the latter is better) ?
And for the Gain, Stereo Panning, Stereo width ans Mute of a rack, the 2 ways are possible...
I really don't understand why there is a difference, it's something a bit confusing...
KVRian
 
815 posts since 27 Sep, 2009, from Bristol UK

Postby leggie; Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:14 pm

I struggled with understanding Muclips coming from a short lived Live8 environment in which I was getting annoyed with the time stretching distortions (warps)

If there existed a Mux ready made to encompass the chopping up of loops as happens in the composer view that would have progressed me no end , as it is I'm still trying to work out how to do it and probably never will. I like the Rex-ness of chopped up loops and the ability to modify each part with all kinds of modulation/changes

As it is Mulab is my new VST host with a nice workable and simple piano roll but desire for the Muclipped chopped loop ability.

I'm comfortable with modular synths and have played with a few patch leads over the years but modular midi is a bit hard ;)

Hope Mulab stays the same and does'nt try to be like other DAW's
KVRist
 
73 posts since 24 Nov, 2010

Postby BrokenTrance; Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:09 am

A stupid thought: square drumpads instead of round ones in MuDrum (and 3 or 4 in each row) :oops:
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KVRian
 
613 posts since 28 Mar, 2008, from U.K.

Postby sl23; Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:02 pm

Nah! Prefer the round ones, looks better. A compromise? Add two extra to the top row?
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KVRist
 
491 posts since 2 Mar, 2009

Postby AndreasD; Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:40 pm

pquenin wrote:I have already asked this and got no answer : I wonder why the way of drawing curves is not the same for midi CC and parameter automation (the latter is better) ?
And for the Gain, Stereo Panning, Stereo width ans Mute of a rack, the 2 ways are possible...
I really don't understand why there is a difference, it's something a bit confusing...


It's just two different type of data. One is represented as midi data (with all it's limitations, but can be saved in midi files - if i'm not worng), the other (proprietary) automation data.
Cubase had these two sets of data since years and as you can create both for the same parameter, they even invented means to decide which data to use how.
KVRist
 
73 posts since 24 Nov, 2010

Postby BrokenTrance; Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:08 am

sl23 wrote:Nah! Prefer the round ones, looks better. A compromise? Add two extra to the top row?
and one in the middle ;)
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KVRian
 
613 posts since 28 Mar, 2008, from U.K.

Postby sl23; Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:18 am

NO! :-o it looks good as is we don't wanna be square do we? :uhuhuh:
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KVRist
 
471 posts since 4 Oct, 2012, from Utah
    

Postby dakkra; Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:44 am

I think circles is part of what makes Mulab unique. Also they allow for velocity testing by clicking inner or outer parts of it. Also they look like cymbals which i think are quite attractive :D
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