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Bitwig Studio [Certified Official Thread!] - with cats, and INFO!

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Crackbaby
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2856 posts since 10 Sep, 2003, from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden

Postby Crackbaby; Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:44 am

Read 35 pages of cats? :party:

I must have missed it :)
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VitaminD
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Postby VitaminD; Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:55 am

Not read 35 pages. Just the one page before... actually only 8 Posts in front of yours. :hihi:

But 35 pages of silly cat pictures is half of the fun of this thread.. at least!
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hibidy
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Postby hibidy; Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:38 am

Summer is a long ways aways. Luckily, I have others to use meantime :phew:
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mellotronaut
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9983 posts since 2 Jan, 2005, from somewhere in the woods

Postby mellotronaut; Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:16 pm

hibidy wrote:Summer is a long ways aways. Luckily, I have others to use meantime :phew:


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"It dreamed itself along"
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Muziksculp
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Postby Muziksculp; Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:44 pm

Summer of which Year ? :o
VitaminD
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Postby VitaminD; Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:49 pm

Muziksculp wrote:Summer of which Year ? :o


I hope this doesn't end like Duke Nukem: Forever. I figured the developers were joking when they called it 'forever'.. after I decade I thought they weren't joking and the name should have been Duke Nukem: Never. :hihi:

....3D Realms announced in 2001 that it would be released simply "when it's done". No official video of the game was shown for almost 8 years, until 3D Realms released a new teaser trailer in December 2007, but the game "submerged" yet again soon afterwards.


But even they, 15 years later, released their software.. so there is hope.
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hibidy
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Postby hibidy; Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:59 pm

Isn't that the one that totally sucked once they finally released it?
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Postby VitaminD; Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:03 pm

correct. It was on the 5 dollar bargain bin within several months.
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Crackbaby
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Postby Crackbaby; Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:05 pm

Yeah, what a joke that game was ...... the first one was so cool! One of the few games i played from start to finish.

And yes, luckily i can survive to the summer. In fact, im not 100% sure i need bitwig with mulab/mux at my hands. Cliplaunching though.. it's so useful for trying ideas (and mix with different tempo'd older project's stems). And lets not forget the hardware integration. I saw what they did with maschine! What can they do with behringer's CMD ... think i'll fantasize about that for a while now... :oops: :D
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Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
VitaminD
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Postby VitaminD; Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:35 pm

Well Bitwig Studio looks fantastic so far... I wish it had an optional brighter theme, but I think I can manage..

The big issue, for me, is cost. Ableton Live (its closest competitor) costs 500 USD street. That is a lot of money. I'm hoping Bitwig Studio is at most half that. At the very least, for an introductory period..

If it is 500 dollars, it could come today, tomorrow, or next year and I still couldn't see myself spending that kind of money for software. But I figure I am in the minority..



The cool thing with Ableton's product is they had tiers.. so you didn't have to buy the whole cow if you didnt want (or couldn't justify) the 'whole' version.

Bitwig seems to have one size fits all... a little worrisome to me (with respect to price)
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EnGee
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Postby EnGee; Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:07 am

VitaminD wrote:Well Bitwig Studio looks fantastic so far... I wish it had an optional brighter theme, but I think I can manage..

The big issue, for me, is cost. Ableton Live (its closest competitor) costs 500 USD street. That is a lot of money. I'm hoping Bitwig Studio is at most half that. At the very least, for an introductory period..

If it is 500 dollars, it could come today, tomorrow, or next year and I still couldn't see myself spending that kind of money for software. But I figure I am in the minority..



The cool thing with Ableton's product is they had tiers.. so you didn't have to buy the whole cow if you didnt want (or couldn't justify) the 'whole' version.

Bitwig seems to have one size fits all... a little worrisome to me (with respect to price)


Consider me in this minority as well. I will be interested only if the price will be $200 or less!! Yes, I know! It won't! I just feel sick and tired every time I look at Logic Pro price! (I don't have a Mac) :cry:

Why should I pay more than $200 for the Cubase Artist upgrade (not even the full version)? Why should I pay about $300 to upgrade to Live standard from Lite?!! :x Compared to Logic Pro most DAWs are overpriced.

I'm going to check the Mac + Logic option! I might switch instead of all that waiting and suffering :smack:
Crackbaby
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Postby Crackbaby; Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:29 am

while i like low prices.. the logic must be that you can have many synths and effects, but usually only one daw thus they can be justified to be more expensive.
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Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
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EnGee
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Postby EnGee; Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:03 am

But why they must be more expensive than Logic?

Nah! IMO it is just a matter of time and the prices will drop and the most expensive DAW will be $200 while the average price for a synth will be $50 to $100. :D
(I just hope it is not after a decade!)
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Postby dsan@mail.com; Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:42 am

EnGee wrote:But why they must be more expensive than Logic?

Nah! IMO it is just a matter of time and the prices will drop and the most expensive DAW will be $200 while the average price for a synth will be $50 to $100. :D
(I just hope it is not after a decade!)


First, Logic was NOT always this inexpensive. When I bought Pro 7 I paid around $700, if memory serves proper. My upgrade to Pro 8 was $199.

I totally agree with your sentiments of wanting lower prices but I seriously doubt this will happen; anytime soon anyway.

I understand R&D and its costs and I expect to pay a fair price for a quality piece of software. But I feel it has gotten out of hand.

I think some developers really do not want their software in the hands of just any musician or should I say hobbiest. This is an elitist attitude and actually costs them, but this is their business model and I respect that.

I'm in sales and prefer a model of lower price and more sales equals more money in the till.

Just my opinion and yours may vary. :)

Happy musiking!
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Postby VitaminD; Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:55 am

That is why their are tiers for many hosts.. Cubase, Logic, Sonar, Studio One, Live, etc..

They don't simply create the 'Rolls Royce' Edition and expect that to meet everyone's needs (in features and/or price).

There is NO way I'm spending over 200 (which is still a large amount of cash) on a piece of software. If you are able to mentally justify spending money like that, then be my guest. I'm not here to stop you.. only to state not everyone feels the same way.

Besides, Live Lite is close to meeting my needs - it only has 4 VSTi tracks though. If it had maybe 8 or definitely 16 I'd be in business.

I don't want or need a modular synth system or UDP Networked Jam Session feature (as examples).. why pay for something you're not going to use? Tiers!!!
"Use the talents you possess, for the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except the best." - Henry Van Dyke
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