Satie - Le fils des étoiles
- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Prelude to the first act of the play Le fils des étoiles, Josephin Peladan.
tigress and the u-fraidees adaptation.
[defunct link]
edit = https://youtu.be/rWvoJTwEqr8
note the planed fourths in the opening.
1891-2!
tigress and the u-fraidees adaptation.
[defunct link]
edit = https://youtu.be/rWvoJTwEqr8
note the planed fourths in the opening.
1891-2!
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- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Wow. It works for me. SC has been f**king me today, a number of times on facebook clicking on the image resulted in 'not available' when it was right there.
the widget has worked every time I tried it here as well.
the widget has worked every time I tried it here as well.
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- KVRAF
- 8072 posts since 12 Dec, 2003 from Canada
I've told you this before, but there's a bagpipe move you make occasionally on the guitar that I love... in here at :24.
Your fractured jazz opera never fails to intrigue, but I still want to hear you cut loose on a groove some day.
The piano was beautiful, why does the chord at 3:17 hit an emotional button for me... I don't know.
What is that reverb on the guitar? Sounds sorta spring-y.
Sorry, I'm jumping all over the place, but I really enjoyed this.
Your fractured jazz opera never fails to intrigue, but I still want to hear you cut loose on a groove some day.
The piano was beautiful, why does the chord at 3:17 hit an emotional button for me... I don't know.
What is that reverb on the guitar? Sounds sorta spring-y.
Sorry, I'm jumping all over the place, but I really enjoyed this.
- KVRAF
- 11536 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
In many ways, this is your most accomplished piece to date. You have broadened your horizons imho (especially since the Satie assimilations, which were mesmerising), but the Stranger series took your work to another level. (What would I know, I am just an interested, and let's be honest, a casual, but keen observer). Every piece of yours that I have heard over the last couple of years has been most impressive, and this is no exception. The way you have combined seemingly unsuited instruments is so reminiscent of FZ, but you manage to achieve a similar effect without employing a 10-piece band.
Anyway, the guitar is gritty, almost to the point where pieces of it get caught between the upper and lower teeth whilst biting down upon the previous phrase. The piano is most impressive, but forget about Mr. Tyner (yes, really). It stands on its own. Jazz/Rock/Classical - they're merely labels. I don't particularly care for them and this track could certainly do without them too. There was a sustained organ around 1:15 that was sitting in the background. Seemingly inconsequential, but it's effect was fundamental to the feel of the piece. The last two minutes of piano were grandiose, but requisite.
I loved it
Anyway, the guitar is gritty, almost to the point where pieces of it get caught between the upper and lower teeth whilst biting down upon the previous phrase. The piano is most impressive, but forget about Mr. Tyner (yes, really). It stands on its own. Jazz/Rock/Classical - they're merely labels. I don't particularly care for them and this track could certainly do without them too. There was a sustained organ around 1:15 that was sitting in the background. Seemingly inconsequential, but it's effect was fundamental to the feel of the piece. The last two minutes of piano were grandiose, but requisite.
I loved it
- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I know exactly what you mean. he makes that transition really happen right there; the middle section sets that up structurally and he melds the questioning section preceding it into that style.polyslax wrote: The piano was beautiful, why does the chord at 3:17 hit an emotional button for me... I don't know.
- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
the verb on the guitar is VSL Hybrid Reverb, "algorithmically-spiced version of the GrosserSaal of Wiener Konzerthaus". It's kind of bright for my tastes today. there is a kind of long predelay is what you're sensing.
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- KVRAF
- 8072 posts since 12 Dec, 2003 from Canada
I literally choke up at that moment... glad it's not just me.jancivil wrote:I know exactly what you mean. he makes that transition really happen right there; the middle section sets that up structurally and he melds the questioning section preceding it into that style.polyslax wrote: The piano was beautiful, why does the chord at 3:17 hit an emotional button for me... I don't know.
- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I think this piece meant something to Satie, in his kind of religion. the subtitle 'La Vocation' means 'the calling', eg., perpetual adoration. 'Child of the Stars'...
- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
there are three peculiar organs here out of Vintage Organs 'special' folder. I read that this was supposed to have been for orchestra but that never happened and there is no published version. other works at the time read: 'harmonium/flute-harp' which is believed to be designation for the stops. I didn't know that until I had arranged it but it is essential to the first part and the middle I think has to have it. I encountered it as piano solo; the first part with the parallel stacked quartal structures STUNNED me, which is where I get McCoy out of it. or Lennie Tristano.seismic1 wrote:sustained organ around 1:15 that was sitting in the background. Seemingly inconsequential, but it's effect was fundamental to the feel of the piece.
there were others doing new things with chords in the late 19th century but to me that blatant stacking, eg., 'C F Bb Eb A D' is visionary, like time travel.
this:
[@2:08] is some true genius. It's simple, it's transparent, and it's tremendous.
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- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
thank you for the good words. it's interesting particularly to see what other people think. this was one of these projects that took like four days in all, for me it's quick work. But I had lived with the idea in the back of my mind. the Satie adaptations are refueling exercises when I'm ready for a change of direction. I still think the next thing could be hip hop and a static groove but I'm very curious about things. This seems mature because of the adult feel of jazz to me.seismic1 wrote:In many ways, this is your most accomplished piece to date.
- KVRAF
- 6329 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Excellent! Very musically accomplished with a bit of kick ass guitar. Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too?
- KVRAF
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- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I do it all the time. it's just a quality of a strong hammer/pull, typically such as 'tapping' provides. especially with a pick, which Zappa did and in fact called his Bulgarian Bagpipes approach.polyslax wrote:a bagpipe move you make occasionally on the guitar that I love... in here at :24.
Stranger 'n' - #5polyslax wrote: Your fractured jazz opera never fails to intrigue, but I still want to hear you cut loose on a groove some day.
gets into stretches of 4/4 with a consistent backbeat... there is lead guitar from start to finish.
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
This is indeed bizarrely modern jazz in tone for a piece that was written 10 years before Louis Armstrong was born.
How much of this 'adaptation' is original material?
In any case it is both interesting and well-crafted. An engaging listening experience.
How much of this 'adaptation' is original material?
In any case it is both interesting and well-crafted. An engaging listening experience.