Logic Pro or Pro Tools ???

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[djanthonyw]

Hey now, I'm still waiting for someone to explain how Pro Tools audio editing is so much better than Logic.

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[softska]

Hey now, I'm still waiting for someone to explain how Pro Tools audio editing is so much better than Logic.

pre-fader clip volume automation is nice, separate pan pot for LR, waveform can zoom to sample level, different slip modes, audiosuite for quick inline offline bouncing, automation lane edit that doesn't snap to 127 values when clicking, track's playlist organization, implementation of group that is easy for hiding/showing group of tracks and what have you.

Sure you can live without any of them. I mix in Logic myself and just work around the limitations, but there are many nice things in PT that are hard to part ways with after you get use to them. I personally hate Logic's idea of waveform to gut but I don't splice things often enough to call it quit.

the actual automation lines/points are so much more advanced in Logic than PT, that i would never be able to replicate the intricate automation I do in logic with PT. it is simply not possible.

Ya it's nice to have but how often one needs it anyway? Sure approximate the shape doesn't look as smooth as the line in Logic but I can't recall an instance where the curve really needed.

I would happily trade that curvey automation with automation lane that doesn't lag like crazy when the session pushes close to CPU limit... It drives me insane on my old mbp that I'll randomly edit the wrong automation simply because the mouse click register late at the wrong spot

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[LawrenceF]

Well there you go, Logic rules the roost.

The free BlueCat plug is "exactly" the same as PT's VCA's. I'll let the Nuendo guys know so they can strike it from the FR list.

Anyway, I'm glad you guys got it sorted so you can sleep better. No more DAW wars.

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[LawrenceF]

Cool man. It's good to find a host that works well for your needs.

Do you do a lot of straightaway band tracking and mixing (audio production) with Logic or do you work mostly with virtual instruments?

Thanks Theo.

[softska]

How often? In every single project, without exception. So i guess it's back to different strokes. No lag here at all cores fully throttled in 9.1.8.

Always go to hell at the end of session even on my new i7 quad core mbp. Mostly by latency-inducing plug but I need them.

The first 2 of your +es is fully covered by the FREE plugin i mentioned above. Logic zooms to sample. Logic has much more than 127 steps now, much more, playlist ok never used that, Logic can hide and show groups as well by clicking on them and hiding. I don't know which version of logic u are using?

I don't know what magical version you have but zooming it's just a blocky mess in arrange no matter how I look at it.
I know there's more than 127 step but getting to them always fiddly for me. Who knows, maybe I'll learn it again. The event list is definitely 127 steps which I can't get away from.

Either way, everything is pretty much covered still that's why I'm still in Logic, but PT has better implementation for some feature IMO is just nice to have. And I gonna cry and bitch until Logic let me do region gain in smaller than 1db increments...

[djanthonyw]

Hey now, I'm still waiting for someone to explain how Pro Tools audio editing is so much better than Logic.

pre-fader clip volume automation is nice

Logic has this, and if you want automation all you do is insert a gain plugin on an insert and automate it.

separate pan pot for LR

What benefit does this offer over a one knob solution?

waveform can zoom to sample level

Logic has this.

Every time you select a region to edit in the Arrange window, the sample edit window is updated to reflect the selection and you can zoom to sample level and use Command to activate the pencil tool and raw out the glitch.

different slip modes

What can you do with different slip modes in Pro Tools that can't be done in Logic?

audiosuite for quick inline offline bouncing

Logic has the "bounce in place" feature.

automation lane edit that doesn't snap to 127 values when clicking

track's playlist organization

implementation of group that is easy for hiding/showing group of tracks and what have you.

Logic offers grouping with hiding and showing... I don't know how much "easier" it can get really... especially when using folders.

[djanthonyw]

I don't know what magical version you have but zooming it's just a blocky mess in arrange no matter how I look at it.

Regardless of how it's displayed, it's still sample accurate.

Either way, everything is pretty much covered still that's why I'm still in Logic

Exactly. Everything is covered which is what I was getting at originally. Audio editing in Pro Tools is not "so much better" than in Logic, regardless of how many people claim it. They can never back it up.

PT has better implementation for some feature IMO is just nice to have

Sounds like a very subjective claim.

I gonna cry and bitch until Logic let me do region gain in smaller than 1db increments...

Why? Region based gain is not meant to be based on small increments, in any program. Even if smaller increments are offered in other programs, you're not supposed to be using this feature to do your mixing.

[cryophonik]

Goddamn, DAW wars are annoying. Haven't you guys even noticed that the OP hasn't replied since shortly after starting this pointless thread? Ya'll done got trolled.

[billcarroll]

Goddamn, DAW wars are annoying. Haven't you guys even noticed that the OP hasn't replied since shortly after starting this pointless thread? Ya'll done got trolled.

Hmmmm. Maybe we could have less of this ...



and more of this?



I always did love that shirt

[softska]

Apparently thinking PT does something better than Logic and now I'm in the wrong religion

Sounds like a very subjective claim.

Well duh, god forbid someone like me dare to have a different opinion and you're not sold on them.

[djanthonyw]

Having an opinion and claiming something is not the same thing.