One-Synth-Challenge 60: Any One Synth - Chat & gossip
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- KVRist
- 265 posts since 21 Apr, 2012
Hi folks,
This special will be epic, and I'm looking forward to hearing all the contributions! If I manage to find the time to participate, I will probably use Massive. I have one question on the rules:
NI Kore software includes all the Massive factory presets, and each preset also has 7 other variants in Kore that one can morph in-between. Can I use Massive within Kore to access those preset variants? So, Kore would purely be used as a VST plugin plugin, similar to Phrazor. I believe multiple DAWs are allowed, and this doesn't differ too much from that concept.
If the answer to the above question is "yes", can I also use the effects within Kore? (This is just to know the boundaries; I don't have any particular reason or desire to use them at this point.)
[Edit] To clarify my question on the Kore effects, I am only asking about the kind of effects normally allowed by the rules, i.e., not modulation, pitching, etc.
Good luck to all!
This special will be epic, and I'm looking forward to hearing all the contributions! If I manage to find the time to participate, I will probably use Massive. I have one question on the rules:
NI Kore software includes all the Massive factory presets, and each preset also has 7 other variants in Kore that one can morph in-between. Can I use Massive within Kore to access those preset variants? So, Kore would purely be used as a VST plugin plugin, similar to Phrazor. I believe multiple DAWs are allowed, and this doesn't differ too much from that concept.
If the answer to the above question is "yes", can I also use the effects within Kore? (This is just to know the boundaries; I don't have any particular reason or desire to use them at this point.)
[Edit] To clarify my question on the Kore effects, I am only asking about the kind of effects normally allowed by the rules, i.e., not modulation, pitching, etc.
Good luck to all!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3922 posts since 15 Dec, 2009
Kore is a thing I will never be able to understand, but it seems to me the presets in Kore will in effect be pay-for presets and there's a rule against those: "Commercial 3rd party synth patches/soundbanks are not permitted"
About using the effects in Kore, is Kore considered a DAW? (I am asking honestly, Kore baffles me)
About using the effects in Kore, is Kore considered a DAW? (I am asking honestly, Kore baffles me)
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- KVRAF
- 2689 posts since 19 Dec, 2010 from North America
He's basically using it as a host, but utilizing the feature where you can slowly morph between a preset. I guess I agree with you, unless he uses his own presets or free ones uploaded in to Kore?V'ger wrote:Kore is a thing I will never be able to understand, but it seems to me the presets in Kore will in effect be pay-for presets and there's a rule against those: "Commercial 3rd party synth patches/soundbanks are not permitted"
About using the effects in Kore, is Kore considered a DAW? (I am asking honestly, Kore baffles me)
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 29 Aug, 2013 from UK
Renoise has now got to a point where it's pretty much a synth - I mean you can draw in a single cycle waveform and then use an envelope, filter and modulate it... and stack up voices and so on. You see where I'm going here?
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- KVRAF
- 2689 posts since 19 Dec, 2010 from North America
In cubase you can draw waveforme in the Audio editing screen but of course would be quite annoying to play with that heheloft_electronics wrote:Renoise has now got to a point where it's pretty much a synth - I mean you can draw in a single cycle waveform and then use an envelope, filter and modulate it... and stack up voices and so on. You see where I'm going here?
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- KVRist
- 265 posts since 21 Apr, 2012
Okay thanks guys. So let me see if I can paraphrase correctly:bjporter wrote:He's basically using it as a host, but utilizing the feature where you can slowly morph between a preset. I guess I agree with you, unless he uses his own presets or free ones uploaded in to Kore?V'ger wrote:Kore is a thing I will never be able to understand, but it seems to me the presets in Kore will in effect be pay-for presets and there's a rule against those: "Commercial 3rd party synth patches/soundbanks are not permitted"
About using the effects in Kore, is Kore considered a DAW? (I am asking honestly, Kore baffles me)
- Using Kore as a host (within a DAW such as Sonar) is ok. Consequently using the Kore effects (delay, reverb etc) seems also ok?
- Using the Massive presets that come with Kore is not ok, even though they are variants of the Massive factory presets.
- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
Not that I'm planning on using it but I'm guessing Arturia's Analog Lab would be in a similar category?
Same/similar paradigm...
Same/similar paradigm...
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- KVRAF
- 2689 posts since 19 Dec, 2010 from North America
The analog lab looks like a single vst, right?H-man wrote:Not that I'm planning on using it but I'm guessing Arturia's Analog Lab would be in a similar category?
Same/similar paradigm...
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
Nup. It's very much a host environment with it's own FX and additional presets. You can access the editor for each of their synths directly but that is not the default view:
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/assets ... ew_650.png
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/assets ... ew_650.png
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- KVRist
- 265 posts since 21 Apr, 2012
One difference is that I believe Analog Lab only hosts the Arturia synths, whereas Kore can host any VST. If it helps with my workflow (I'll experiment with that this month) I might continue using Kore as a host in future OSCs as well
- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
Yes, only Arturia synths, which are all commercial products and not relevant for the typical OSC rule set.adagiocm wrote:One difference is that I believe Analog Lab only hosts the Arturia synths, whereas Kore can host any VST. If it helps with my workflow (I'll experiment with that this month) I might continue using Kore as a host in future OSCs as well
- KVRAF
- 2289 posts since 18 Apr, 2001 from The Netherlands
I would say that it's a synth collection and not 'one synth', however, within this months 'any' one synth (including commercial ones) rule, using it with one particular selected synth from that collection seems fine to me.H-man wrote:Not that I'm planning on using it but I'm guessing Arturia's Analog Lab would be in a similar category?
Same/similar paradigm...
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, using Reaper and a fine selection of freeware plugins.
Ragnarök VST-synthesizer co-creator with Full Bucket
Ragnarök VST-synthesizer co-creator with Full Bucket
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3922 posts since 15 Dec, 2009
Agree with that.crimsonwarlock wrote:I would say that it's a synth collection and not 'one synth', however, within this months 'any' one synth (including commercial ones) rule, using it with one particular selected synth from that collection seems fine to me.H-man wrote:Not that I'm planning on using it but I'm guessing Arturia's Analog Lab would be in a similar category?
Same/similar paradigm...
About Kore, if it's indeed a DAW/host the effects can be used like any other DAW/host. The presets must however be considered payware since they are not available for free and only available if you buy Kore, even if they are variants of the factory ones. Tbh I dare say a lot normal commercial presets are also variants of factory presets..