Bitwig

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:08 pm

seen the question about it, so just mention it because seems it isn't well-known, Bidule supports both missing features,

so u can use both VST3, and ReWire based gadgets with BWS with it, unfortunately it isn't cheap but must have for BWS owners

especially if u are deeply in the modular "business"

http://www.plogue.com/products/bidule/

llze · Post by **llze** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:49 pm

how is that performance wise? Could get Z3ta to run, would be nice

shadiradio · Post by **shadiradio** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:12 pm

xbitz wrote:so u can use both VST3, and ReWire based gadgets with BWS with it, unfortunately it isn't cheap but must have for BWS owners especially if u are deeply in the modular "business"

Thank you so much for sharing, I am very interested in this. It looks like Bidule doesn't have an active trial at the moment... would you mind explaining just a little bit about how this works? I am assuming (from reading on their site) that Bidule, in VST plugin mode, can host other VST3s as well as act as a Rewire device. Does this mean that you add the Bidule plugin to a track, load a Bidule patch that supports Rewire, and go on from there? Sorry, no experience with PB.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:36 pm

docs: http://www.plogue.com/seb/Bidule.pdf (from Chapter 5. VST and VSTi support )

it supports own, VST, VST3, ReWire based devices same as in BWS as is in this Logic video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbjgJ2ZaRrs

from 2:27

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:04 pm

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... e#p6020773

Hosts AUs too (on Mac)

PHY6 · Post by **PHY6** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:39 pm

check out http://www.ddmf.eu/product.php?id=3
doesn't do rewire, but au and vst3

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:19 pm

Meta plugin doesn't support them fully yet though, it loads the plugins but not vst or au presets. It's also a lot less stable than Bidule.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:49 pm

Ok, so in the never-ending cycle of "spend spend spend" if you have bitwig, you can get bidule, launch it in bitwig, and then run reason?

PHY6 · Post by **PHY6** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:21 pm

i'm using metaplugin 64bit with Padshop au here, and it loads presets and saves the metaplugin state with no problem.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:34 pm

PHY6 wrote:i'm using metaplugin 64bit with Padshop au here, and it loads presets and saves the metaplugin state with no problem.

Not aupresets it doesn't.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:30 am

Yep, great tool.

BTW: You can get four channels of audio into it when misusing the sidechain as additional input...

Cheers,

Tom

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:32 am

I edited one of the addon skins to make it more Bitwig coloured:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5646041/Wiggie.zip

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:39 am

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:40 am

and hi5

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:56 am

hibidy wrote:Ok, so in the never-ending cycle of "spend spend spend" if you have bitwig, you can get bidule, launch it in bitwig, and then run reason?

yep, u can also control the different knobs of Reason using MIDI CCs, the list is here:

http://www.tufts.edu/programs/mma/ctfm/ ... 0Chart.pdf

so for example the rotary 1 of a Combinator uses the MIDICC71

(gonna create a video about it soon)

Bitwig

KVR Audio

Plogue Bidule, the missing VST3 and ReWire support