Bitwig

blouaap · Post by **blouaap** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:18 am

The UI is written in Java, if it is UI problems you have then there has to be a way to add the standard Java performance arguments to the Bitwig Java executable.
These commands:
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19900-01/819 ... index.html

I'm going to try and see if I can add it somehow.

In windows an Executable can take arguments via the Properties dialog of the .exe file (or a shortcut),
but I'm not sure if that .exe will carry over the arguments to the Java executable.
Linux and OSX will probably have to be via a script or just a launch via the terminal.

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:56 am

Greetings,

Bitwig 1.1.7 is fast and light here. My main machine is built around a 6-core AMD CPU, with 16G memory. OS is Linux, Fedora 19 with Planet CCRMA additions. No observable slowdowns yet.

Best,

dp

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:02 am

I only got sluggish reactions when ive got a s**tload of samples and clips...
But when i render some out and consolidate midi clips/tracks and cut them in new portions again (what tidy up the project

)
The slugginess goes away.
Ive got the feeling that in the beginning it was worse then now??

But overall it behaves like it should.

mikoatkvr · Post by **mikoatkvr** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:15 am

phantom-one wrote:As I mentioned earlier, there is an issue with the TurboBoost on Linux. I had a poor Bitwig performance until I've switched CPU governor to the "performance" one.
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sudo cpupower frequency-set -g performance
I suspect that you getting a similar issue on Windows. Though I don't know how to solve it on Windows.

After installing the appropriate packages and kernel modules, your command does indeed speed up loading time to around 9sec and hopefully performance in general, this is actually easier than having to set each core (4) with the cpu-freq command. thanks

For anyone else interested the 1st package needed is " cpufrequtils " then on 1st run from the terminal it will suggest other packages, install all of these too

DroneSpirit · Post by **DroneSpirit** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:41 pm

30 ~ sec to start bitwig
new i7 win8.1

qtheerearranger · Post by **qtheerearranger** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:45 pm

CPU performance will only get better with time. One day we will hopefully have track freeze too.

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:49 am

DroneSpirit wrote:30 ~ sec to start bitwig
new i7 win8.1

Approximately 10 secs here.
AMD FX6300, 16G memory, old nVidia GPU, Fedora 19 Linux with Planet CCRMA extensions.

Best,

dp

moss · Post by **moss** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:50 am

StudioDave wrote:
DroneSpirit wrote:30 ~ sec to start bitwig
new i7 win8.1
Approximately 10 secs here.
AMD FX6300, 16G memory, old nVidia GPU, Fedora 19 Linux with Planet CCRMA extensions.

Best,

dp

This is not a matter of memory or CPU but of a fast harddisc. Grab a fast SSD and you will be a happy camper!
9 secs here on my 4 year old Laptop but updated to a new SSD.

goatgirl · Post by **goatgirl** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:36 am

moss wrote:
This is not a matter of memory or CPU but of a fast harddisc. Grab a fast SSD and you will be a happy camper!
9 secs here on my 4 year old Laptop but updated to a new SSD.

Just optimising the OS helps too, removing all the bloatware, disabling devices and processors you don't use etc. My laptop started out with a 45 seconds Bitwig load time, but now I get around 11 secs using a slow 5400 rpm drive.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:49 am

10 seconds to start up with SSd. W7, I7 something

But damnit, took me 2 hours to make good DnB snare drum that slaps in your face.

(hope they will find something to that. Or is that a JAVA problem?

)
Nha love bitwig!

takaii · Post by **takaii** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:12 am

codec17 wrote:10 seconds to start up with SSd. W7, I7 something

But damnit, took me 2 hours to make good DnB snare drum that slaps in your face.
(hope they will find something to that. Or is that a JAVA problem? )
Nha love bitwig!

Bitwig takes 10 sekunds for me to start up.
I have a laptop with harddrive 5400 rpm speed and i7 4700 mq

but what is slow is when i have 50 tracks and midi information alot off.. Even if dsp is good. Hate working with big tracks. I dont like to bounce either

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:43 am

goatgirl wrote:
moss wrote:
This is not a matter of memory or CPU but of a fast harddisc. Grab a fast SSD and you will be a happy camper!
9 secs here on my 4 year old Laptop but updated to a new SSD.
Just optimising the OS helps too, removing all the bloatware, disabling devices and processors you don't use etc. My laptop started out with a 45 seconds Bitwig load time, but now I get around 11 secs using a slow 5400 rpm drive.

Antivirus can slow down as well, normally those check every program start for threats.

Memoery helps as well, because programs are buffered in memory having been started before (at least on Windows).

harmoney · Post by **harmoney** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:10 pm

off course a ssd is better, but BW keeps starting long comparing to live.
(live 9.0 needed also longer start-time than live 9.17, so maybe BW will optimize that too in sooner updates).
well, it isnt sooo important, but the fun or stress with an app, begins exactly here.

llze · Post by **llze** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:14 pm

ronnyrydgren wrote:
codec17 wrote:10 seconds to start up with SSd. W7, I7 something

But damnit, took me 2 hours to make good DnB snare drum that slaps in your face.
(hope they will find something to that. Or is that a JAVA problem? )
Nha love bitwig!
Bitwig takes 10 sekunds for me to start up.
I have a laptop with harddrive 5400 rpm speed and i7 4700 mq but what is slow is when i have 50 tracks and midi information alot off.. Even if dsp is good. Hate working with big tracks. I dont like to bounce either

bouncing certainly helps to proceed. Finish a track, bounce it, and deactivate the midi, you can go back whenever you want then.

takaii · Post by **takaii** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:54 pm

Suloo wrote:
ronnyrydgren wrote:
codec17 wrote:10 seconds to start up with SSd. W7, I7 something

But damnit, took me 2 hours to make good DnB snare drum that slaps in your face.
(hope they will find something to that. Or is that a JAVA problem? )
Nha love bitwig!
Bitwig takes 10 sekunds for me to start up.
I have a laptop with harddrive 5400 rpm speed and i7 4700 mq but what is slow is when i have 50 tracks and midi information alot off.. Even if dsp is good. Hate working with big tracks. I dont like to bounce either
bouncing certainly helps to proceed. Finish a track, bounce it, and deactivate the midi, you can go back whenever you want then.

Its not the vsti or fx vst that makes it slow. Its all midi clips and informations. Somehow bitwig goes really slow when having alot of midi in it. I love to work with midi. I dont like bounce cause it takes a while to bounce out everything on a big project. I dont like to work that way. Just my workflow prefer working in midi...

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