Sampler Feature Requests

[pdxindy]

I think a good, creative sampler would be a great addition, if not just from the workflow perspective alone. The more integrated tools BW offers (since in practice it's going to a very different direction from many other DAWs), the less users need to rely on external expensive tools. This actually matters to non-professionals who don't have lots of money to spend. Also combined with the existing creative modulation options a more capable sampler would be IMO more intetesting than Kontakt for example. I have it, but use it exclusively as a player for my bought libraries. Also learning takes time. Tools integrated into Bitwig are easier to learn than completely new software.

I am mostly working purely in BW without VSTs already, this would enable me to start to move away from Kontakt, since anyway NI does not provide official Linux support.
I do have Windows too, so my choice of dropping VSTs is not forced, I've just found that the feeling of working without plugins that all follow their own paradigms, might have cumbersome interfaces etc enables me to do creative work more naturally and faster too.

I also find the Voice Stacking system in Bitwig so powerful and easy to use. It makes the Sampler more interesting to me.

[r4ndom]

PLEASE, the #1 feature request for sampler is...

TIMESTRETCH!!

PLEASE include timestretch so that we can pitch up/down specific chops and it stay in time, like in ableton... please!!!

[Tearing Riots]

11. Add the filter from Phase-4 to Sampler... along with the per voice gain.

The 'gain' control is per voice

Isn't that what I said?

I meant: sampler's 'gain' control is per voice
Or am i misunderstanding?

[pdxindy]

11. Add the filter from Phase-4 to Sampler... along with the per voice gain.

The 'gain' control is per voice

Isn't that what I said?

I meant: sampler's 'gain' control is per voice
Or am i misunderstanding?

Ahhh... you meant in Sampler... Got it... It does not have the saturation like in Phase-4

[bigbot]

I'm glad you all turned me on to instrument layer! It seems to have promise. For example, I dropped a bunch of samples on it and it created a sample layer for each. The bad news is each sample is assigned to c3. It would be cool if it asked you if you wanted to map drums or something.

I wonder what happens if you drop an sf2 on it. It would be nice if it broke up each zone to its own layer. I'd want to select multiple zones and edit all selected at once though.

[bigbot]

Bummer. It just created one layer with all zones in a multisample.

[bigbot]

Now I'm playing around with drum machine and agree with what was someone was saying about one-shot mode being the default.

[Echoes in the Attic]

In this type of DAW there's no need to have a super sampler with all the possible options. It should remain a simple module with the necessary features: round robin, stretching, beat slicing, loop crossfading, but no choke groups, zone FX or multi outs. You can create complex structures using the sampler module with other Bitwig devices - eg. for drum programming use drum machine, and for zones use instrument layer.

So Ableton's Simpler plugin, which can slice samples, warp samples, loop with fades and apply Cytomic-modeled Filters, among numerous other features, is actually un-needed in Ableton because a user can buy Kontakt? Seriously, get real.

I think you may have misread why he wrote. Most of those features in simpler is what he’s saying should be in the bitwig sampler. But not choke groups and complicated layering things like you would find in mega samplers like kontakt. And I agree. I’d like to see the creative stuff like the stretching and fades etc, which let you do a lot with a single samples or a few samples. But I do think for complex multisampled instruments it’s still better to use something like kontakt. Simpler is a good example of a powerful yet simple sampler geared towards creative manipulation of a single sample. I think we’d all like to see more if that kind of thing in bigwigs sampler without complicating it with per zone stuff.

[Benutzername]

I don't think that the sampler should compete with Kontakt. But I think it should at least have enough features to be able to import and play simple sample formats like sfz or sf2 and maybe even some hardware formats like Akai or E-MU. This would open up a whole new world for the Bitwig eco system.

This includes of course standard features like time stretch and cross fades.

[connmach]

to be able to import and play simple sample formats like sfz or sf2 .

I don't use it, but iirc reading the manual, it already does.

and.

I don't care what they will do to the sampler, or other native thingies.
There are specialist teams out there making things, so much better than a DAW specialist team can do.
I am pro choice. Everybody using the same tools made by the same people sounds a bit 1984 to me.

dare, explore, some are even for free

[JHernandez]

Pro choice? 1984? WAT?

The sampler is a bit crippled, some of the "native thingies" need refinement, imo. As far I as know, no one is trying to censor Bitwig's language. I don't think anyone is asking for a DAW abortion, I would just like a somewhat up to date native sampler.

[Benutzername]

I don't care what they will do to the sampler, or other native thingies.
There are specialist teams out there making things, so much better than a DAW specialist team can do.
I am pro choice. Everybody using the same tools made by the same people sounds a bit 1984 to me.

Like using Kontakt and Massive?

[connmach]

I don't care what they will do to the sampler, or other native thingies.
There are specialist teams out there making things, so much better than a DAW specialist team can do.
I am pro choice. Everybody using the same tools made by the same people sounds a bit 1984 to me.

Like using Kontakt and Massive?

Or 112db or DiscoDSP or Togu Audio Line or Vember audio or Glitchmachines or Serato or CWITEC or VSTSynthFont or One Small Clue or AIR Music Technology or Steinberg or UVI or MOTU or ... Google ...

[pdxindy]

Since they added the global voice stacking functions, I'm keen to see the Sampler be updated because that gives it something others don't have.

[codec17]

PLEASE, the #1 feature request for sampler is...

TIMESTRETCH!!

PLEASE include timestretch so that we can pitch up/down specific chops and it stay in time, like in ableton... please!!!