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liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:47 am

hi,
I'm working since this Summer to produce a CD
with some electric guitar solo improvvisations,

it's a long time a wanna do something like that,

here are two of the 5 track I recorded so far,

recording in not very hifi but I like it like that,
anyway I'd really like to know what you think of this kind of music,
both guitarists and non, please

http://www.dashsignature.com/mp3/once_t ... Stones.wma

9:05 6.6 MB

http://www.dashsignature.com/mp3/Folk_Philosophy.mp3

5:28 4.2 MB

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:23 am

too gentlemen?

Glooper · Post by **Glooper** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:18 pm

kinda wierd.. nice effect on the guitar with regards to delay / harmonics thingy... almost like it is adding a deep brass instrument to the sound.

EQ wise it seems fills the spectrum well... (though I am using crappy work headphones)

IMHO... I think it's a bit too erm, self indulgant for my liking... I kept wanting to hear some structure appear in the piece... something that you could grab and take away with you... without that I feel as though there's no progression as the song goes on... I'm not really taken on a journey... but just randomly thrown around me own head... if that makes sense...

but then all the above is a taste thing... so don't take it to heart...

... I imagine a lot of people will disagree with me, and will love this kind of improvisation...

Ben

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:49 pm

many thanks Ben, that's an interesting comment,

about self indulgent, well of course I think it's not, I may suggest that the structure is there,
just that is a long and not schematic structure, not an AABACBBA song thing,

you may figure the structures I'm using in these improvisations like the parts of a classic composition, terms like allegro, adagio, intro, coda, interlude, to create a varying soundscape,

but I agree that it's taste thing,

so where are those?!? who "will love this kind of improvisation..."

freeztar · Post by **freeztar** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:17 pm

I'll have to agree with Glooper on the first one. It starts out cool, but then it never seems to develop and stays that way too long. The second song was a much more enjoyable listen for me, though I think it could be shortened. And since you already have milky delay, you might as well smatter some more effects in there. Maybe a LFO followed by a phasor or resinator. That might at least make the ambience a little more listenable.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:32 pm

once there were ...

reminds of the stunningly sparse guitar work in 'dead man' ...
i like the playing just fine , and i don't need it to 'go anywhere' ...
if anything , i would like it to become more minimal ...
the level of noise bothers me a bit ...

folk philosophy ...

this is growing on me w/ each listen ...
there are some haunting little passages hidden away in here ...
perhaps a little too monotone ...
an introduction of varied dynamics would possibly increase interest ...

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:37 pm

freeztar wrote:I'll have to agree with Glooper on the first one. It starts out cool, but then it never seems to develop and stays that way too long. The second song was a much more enjoyable listen for me, though I think it could be shortened. And since you already have milky delay, you might as well smatter some more effects in there. Maybe a LFO followed by a phasor or resinator. That might at least make the ambience a little more listenable.

ok I see what you mean about the first track.
about the effects in the second one, here I have overdrive, harmonizer, delay and reverb, and if I want another one my multiprocessor says no, <sigh>

I may add it off line with a plugin on mastering but
I guess it would make the whole more muddy

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:42 pm

normal wrote:once there were ...

reminds of the stunningly sparse guitar work in 'dead man' ...
i like the playing just fine , and i don't need it to 'go anywhere' ...
if anything , i would like it to become more minimal ...
the level of noise bothers me a bit ...

thanks, useful points,
about minimal in others recording I made I did that

folk philosophy ...

this is growing on me w/ each listen ...
there are some haunting little passages hidden away in here ...
perhaps a little too monotone ...
an introduction of varied dynamics would possibly increase interest ...

thanks again, I think this sketch is more jazz than it seem at first,
about monotone maybe a shortening edit would help (?)

[guitar solo] need critics please for album