Buyer beware when purchasing "account takeovers" on the KVR Sell & Buy Forum and other scams
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 15 Mar, 2022
It's always so tempting, especially when you people offer it for so low but I'm always afraid that they would just change their password and that'd be the end of that. I also completely forgot that companies would go after you and ask for proof of license randomly too. It's best not to do it in the end unless you want to risk a big fat fine.
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 27 May, 2022
Thanks for warning us.
- KVRist
- 230 posts since 25 Jan, 2021
I have serious buyer regret from purchasing a few products from a company that does not allow demos or resale. I can also understand people's wariness of buying account takeovers, but at this point, I'd be more than happy to let it go for more than what this company is having deals for. Such a shame people are scamming left and right and companies not allowing license reselling.
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- Suspended
- 16031 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Is it dishonest, though? What if I sign up as "ButtCheeks58" and give my name as "Who Cares"? Surely it is Who Cares, trading as ButtCheeks58, who is being granted a license, not me as the individual who created the account? So If I want to give or sell that account to someone else, what's dishonest about that? I did it with my Bitwig license because; a) I'd bought it from a shop as a physical product and b) it just seemed like a lot less hassle to do it that way. I changed all the account details myself, having uninstalled Bitwig some weeks earlier, and about a week later, after I received payment, I emailed the buyer the password and a photo of the card I got with the serial no. on it. He changed the password straight away and that was that.
Now, if I'd sold the license but kept using it myself, which I bet happens a lot with license transfers, that would be dishonest. But I don't see any dishonesty in account takeovers unless it is something specifically not allowed in the EULA. e.g. Autodesk's EULA specifically doesn't allow license transfers if one company buys another. All the bought company's licenses expire when the takeover happens. To me that's absurd but if you agree to their EULA, that's the deal.
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- KVRAF
- 2586 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
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- KVRist
- 253 posts since 9 Mar, 2019
I've moved this comment.
"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself... Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable..." ~ H.L. Mencken
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- KVRist
- 226 posts since 5 Feb, 2021
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 2 Jan, 2023
There's one of those right now in "Sell & Buy" that's not only a NI account takeover rather than license transfers, but asks for payment in gift certificates rather than paypal. There's a plausible reason on that one, but it seems people are heeding the warning in this thread.
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 28 Dec, 2022
I guess the moral is that if it seems to good to be true, it just might be too good to be true. Damn. Just when I was starting to get comfortable with the idea of buying licenses from anybody but the developers. I suppose this is the best time for me to see this warning though.
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- KVRian
- 514 posts since 8 Oct, 2005
I often see account takeover offers here. But I wouldn't do it unless you check with the company first. I checked with IK Multimedia support and got this reply from a Technical Support Supervisor: "No, you cannot buy or sell entire IK accounts in this case."