the most authentic sounding filter plugin?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 7 posts since 4 Sep, 2022
what vst sounds the best for filters and gets the most real to hardware sound? there's loads of different sounding hardware filters out there which are different depending on the synth, people often buy a synth because of the filter. they can range completely from "buttery smooth" to "screamy" and "acid" what vst plugins really nail the sound of an analogue filter the best for each different style? i'm looking to buy some filter plugins and trying to see the best options.
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- KVRist
- 65 posts since 24 Aug, 2021
Used to be One Ping Only but I don't think it's available in 64bit or for Apple Silicon.
J/k - On a more practical note, Andrew Simper kind of "wrote the book" on audio circuit modelling so if you are looking for a dedicated filter you will probably not go too wrong with Cytomic The Drop.
You said yourself that you like some particular models of filters and it might not contain them.
While there are many analog designs there isn't infinitely many. You will do yourself good if you learn which ones are in the synths you really like, and then Google to see if someone did circuit modeled plugins of them.
J/k - On a more practical note, Andrew Simper kind of "wrote the book" on audio circuit modelling so if you are looking for a dedicated filter you will probably not go too wrong with Cytomic The Drop.
You said yourself that you like some particular models of filters and it might not contain them.
While there are many analog designs there isn't infinitely many. You will do yourself good if you learn which ones are in the synths you really like, and then Google to see if someone did circuit modeled plugins of them.
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- KVRAF
- 2972 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Unscientifically but based on some real hardware comparisons by ear, the at least 3 of the 4 Arturia stand-alone filter plugins in FX bundle 3 sound great to me. The characteristic sound associated with each certainly comes across. I have SEM, Mini and MS20 style modular filters in hardware , I don’t have a Matrix 12 style filter here though to compare. The filters have enhanced capabilities which I welcome.
synthhelp wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:19 am what vst sounds the best for filters and gets the most real to hardware sound? there's loads of different sounding hardware filters out there which are different depending on the synth, people often buy a synth because of the filter. they can range completely from "buttery smooth" to "screamy" and "acid" what vst plugins really nail the sound of an analogue filter the best for each different style? i'm looking to buy some filter plugins and trying to see the best options.
- KVRAF
- 15351 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
And VST land is the same as the real world.
A filter plugin is only helpful when you have a 'modular' kind of DAW/setup. I mean, it needs an envelope generator or another modulation signal in order to do something interesting to the sound. It works best when it's inside (or in direct connection with) the synth.
So better answer another question: what VST synth has "the best" filter?
Which quickly diverges into what the best synth VST is...
... which is totally subjective, personal preference and such. Can of worms
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 24 Mar, 2022
Pulsar Modular’s Siren has become my go to ITB filter. It’s spendy but totally worth it to me.
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Sorry, that's not true.gearwatcher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:06 pm Used to be One Ping Only but I don't think it's available in 64bit or for Apple Silicon.
One Ping Only comes with an exceptional sub filter and it's usable on MacOS Ventura Silicon via the infamous Rosetten Injection (German: Zäpfchen).
What shall I tell you: It's smooth as butter in the sun!
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 31 Mar, 2022
very big cinema
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- KVRian
- 522 posts since 15 Jun, 2018
The Drop is the gold standard to me.
Other characterful filters are Arturia's MS-20 Filter, Moog's own MF-101S Lowpass Filter VST and Ableton Auto-Filter (based on the Drop).
Other characterful filters are Arturia's MS-20 Filter, Moog's own MF-101S Lowpass Filter VST and Ableton Auto-Filter (based on the Drop).
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- KVRAF
- 9591 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
+1
The Drop
Gold standard in filters, audio rate modulateable via side chain and nice saturation too
The Drop
Gold standard in filters, audio rate modulateable via side chain and nice saturation too
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- KVRAF
- 1763 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
What do you mean when you say a filter that sounds ‘authentic’? Authentic means not a copy of. I really don’t get your question
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRist
- 341 posts since 30 Nov, 2008
the drop + flowerchild filter. and the arturia ms 20.
only those 3 give me goosebumps.
only those 3 give me goosebumps.
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- KVRAF
- 1763 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
A filter is a glorified eq. I don’t get the OP question
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 7951 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
You're either deliberately obtuse or stupid, thenramseysounds wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:36 pm A filter is a glorified eq. I don’t get the OP question
As to the actual question, Arturia MS20 is very good IMO. I actually still quite like the original Korg Legacy MS20 too - it doesn't have the raucousness/unpredictability of the real thing but it has good character and you can use the plugin as an effect rather than synth. Not mentioned yet is impOSCar - can also be used as an effect. It isn't self-oscillating but it can be very musical and lush sounding, especially with the drive on and you also get the benefit of a superb synth attached to it .