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Author Topic: XHip--Please finish your synth!!
osiris
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:57 am reply with quote
I downloaded this & I have to say cool gui, cool routings, cool everything. I get one sound- a square wave, but it sounds awesome!! I wouls like to know if your're planning to have some presets/banks up soon. My mouth is watering.
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No_Use
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:04 am reply with quote
...and I thought I was the only one just getting a square wave sound and that it wouldn't be running on my system.

Yes, it'd also like to see it finished.
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.jon
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:30 am reply with quote
You can switch GUI pages by clicking on the darkest grey areas. 5 pages of controls in total, two of them for osc waveforms.
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1-2-Many
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:40 am reply with quote
I don't care for the current gui. T'would be nice to see an official release with a top notch gui (grymmjack among other excellent skinners here come to mind).

Yes - great potential - unfortunately methinks acidose is the eternal tinkerer HiHi
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Boulotaur2024
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:46 am reply with quote
Another vote for a skin by Grymmjack.

I know he's probably already busy with other stuff but his work could definitely make Xhip outstanding. This synth has so much potential, much more than the overrated Oatmeal, -which has a great magic randomize function- but doesn't have very attractive filters.
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tech44
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:23 am reply with quote
There was a thread where someone was offering his GUI services to someone that needed it and everyone said "xhip!". If I wasn't lazy I would find it Smile
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sc_a
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:29 am reply with quote
Please, Please!

Power to the People!
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djsubject
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:52 am reply with quote
Boulotaur2024 wrote:
his synth has so much potential, much more than the overrated Oatmeal,


agreed, i do like Oatmeal!!! & i am most grateful to fizz!! Hug


but the OSC's & filters in Xhip are in a totally different league!!!

Oatmeal is very useful & makes many good bread & butter & different sounds, but you cant get the phatt sound that you can get from the likes of Xhip, i love Xhip & am more intrested in a crap load of presets than a new gui, but a grym gui on Xhip would be the shit Love

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bengeorge
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:57 am reply with quote
"Yes - great potential - unfortunately methinks acidose is the eternal tinkerer"

This seems to be the case. He's a cool guy, and obviously pretty dang good at the math of synthesis, but I don't think that xhipsynth will ever really be in any sort of finished state.

People have been rioting in the KVR streets for a better gui for this thing for at least a year... and aciddose is now off working on some 3d project.

It's like the old saying goes: The Best is the enemy of the Good. Which is to say: sometimes when a developer only wants to release the most awesome groundbreaking etc etc software, what happens is that he never releases anything truly useful and finished, because everything is always in half-finished beta stages. Suddenly, in the middle of the night he gets an EVEN BETTER idea, and everything gets scrapped. Call it Linux syndrome.

I just use the old beta I have and take it for what it is: an awesome freeware synth.
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aciddose
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:07 am reply with quote
i've always been playing with 3d, it isnt directly related to xhip in any way besides the fact that both xhip and my 3d stuff uses the same set of libraries, so if i make improvements to the graphics capabilities to facilitate something in the 3d renderer, that added functionality gets passed along to be available in xhip.

as for the gui, i'm ready to go. i can start working 100% on new gui implementations for xhip. i've got switchable guis working partially (i wont release this since it isnt practical for ordinary use yet) and i have all the basic systems in place which are needed to do more guis.

i just need people to design layouts, widgets and document what they design so that i can implement it easilly. there are some gui designs in the works but it seems they'll have to wait until mid or late january due to the designers being busy.

i can not design the gui myself, i'm too lazy, i have tastes which are fairly unique and i like the existing one already :P i mean if i tried to design a gui for everyone to like i'd probably fail at it, i'm no good at those things.

as for patches, xhip loads patches and there are quite a few available. you have to wait for alpha versions in order to have backward capability with patches you save. (patches made with a revision may not load correctly in future versions)

http://xhip.cjb.net/xhip/faq.cgi

see both the section about patches and the section about versioning/"full version".
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aciddose
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:41 am reply with quote
i've been working on this page:
http://xhip.cjb.net/xhip/releases/

this will let everyone get the latest version and check to see what versions have been available. i'll be adding documentation for each individual release in the form of a text file which you'll be able to click on next to the dll.

i wish i could make something more fancy than this simple text interface but i do not have much experiance with web coding and i do not have the time. maybe it'll get done some time in the future. currently this is just in a small perl script, if i wrote it in c++ it would be easier to handle.
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osiris
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:52 am reply with quote
Mucho thanks for the patches--Now I can see what this syn can really do. Methinks you could have a mini (Access)Virus on your hands.
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Jono-60
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:43 pm reply with quote
While you are waiting for a layout design, could you knock up something just a bit more user friendly?

I really love the sounds of xhip, just a noob like me can't handle the currrent GUI.
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cheul
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:05 pm reply with quote
Jono-60 wrote:
While you are waiting for a layout design, could you knock up something just a bit more user friendly?

I really love the sounds of xhip, just a noob like me can't handle the currrent GUI.


That sums up the feeling I've had since I discovered this fantabulous souding synth.
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Highvoltage
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:39 pm reply with quote
the GUI works just fine if oyou know to program a synth, except for that friggin page-handling. i can get used to it, but how easy would be to implement 5 tabs to be one click away from the pages.
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