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new dx/dxi/mfx wrappers

Plug-in hosts and other software applications discussion

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polac
KVRist
 
49 posts since 8 Mar, 2003

Postby polac; Sun May 06, 2007 4:15 am new dx/dxi/mfx wrappers

Hi all,

I decided to release these wrappers to public now, as freeware. Perhaps they are of use for someone :).

http://xlutop.com/buzz/zip/dxshell_v1.0.4b.zip

last updated on 08-Mar-2012
-x64 versions added

There are basically three vst plugins, dxshell.dll, dxishell.dll and mfxshell.dll, these vsts are non-standard vsts, they are so-called shell vsts like the vsts known from Waves. Unfortunately this means that only a few hosts are able to use these wrappers directly. Some hosts that are supporting shell vsts directly:

Cubase SX,
Tracktion,
Reaper,
Temper,
Renoise,
Buzz,
Aodix,
Vsthost

If you want to use them in other hosts you firstly have to convert them to "standard" vsts with a tool called shell2vst which is also bundled with this zipfile.

Some infos about these wrappers:

- vst 2.4 compatibility
- therefore support for 32bit and 64bit processing
- able to run dx plugins in 64bit processing mode if the plugin supports it
- fully automatable parameters
- multi-in/out plugins supported
- the mfx wrapper is quite experimental right now, some mfx plugins will work but others not
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MRT
KVRian
 
988 posts since 3 Dec, 2002

Postby MRT; Sun May 06, 2007 6:03 am

Just gave the dx and dxi shells a go in Energy XT 1.4.1 With no problems.
Very nice, Thank You!
mahtazz
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1882 posts since 22 Jan, 2005, from Andorra

Postby mahtazz; Sun May 06, 2007 6:17 am

Thanks
shamann
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12277 posts since 18 Aug, 2003, from Toronto

Postby shamann; Sun May 06, 2007 7:13 am

Wow, excellent. Thanks very much, the mfx shell will be very handy.
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Lagrange
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5688 posts since 22 Sep, 2005

Postby Lagrange; Sun May 06, 2007 8:08 am

Was there a page for these plugs?

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TheoM
KVRAF
 
19214 posts since 4 Sep, 2001, from Melbourne Australia

Postby TheoM; Sun May 06, 2007 9:13 am

this is a great idea for the anwida plugins, will check it out, thanks so much!
"Just call me shitload, cause I own a shitload of plugins!"
Kalamata Kid
KVRian
 
1310 posts since 26 Jul, 2001, from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Postby Kalamata Kid; Sun May 06, 2007 8:11 pm

Let me get this straight:
The mfxshell.dll, will allow me to use some MFX in Cubase SX3? and maybe even energyXT? :love:

My studio is not presently functional to test this. :cry:

The DX wrappers are fine but I already had ways around this but surely these wrappers will be a great convenience.

The MFX to VST wrapper has been requested for years now so I expect it to be very popular with the Midi Folks.

Thanks polac. :D How could you do what everybody else said it could not be done?

Is there a list of which MFX work and which ones do not?
Lagrange
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5688 posts since 22 Sep, 2005

Postby Lagrange; Sun May 06, 2007 8:20 pm

:-o :shock: mfxshell.dll wrapper :-o :shock: This is going to draw some serious attention.. I'm going to superbump this one in the morning and see what happens..
So how do I output the MIDI from my MFX in my DAW internally. please please please tell me I don't have to go to an external driver as this would cause stuttering, dropouts and many out of sync events in my case.. Very excited about this part for sure!

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mw
KVRist
 
381 posts since 12 Nov, 2005

Postby mw; Sun May 06, 2007 8:28 pm

can't wait to try it, thanx.
Lagrange
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5688 posts since 22 Sep, 2005

Postby Lagrange; Sun May 06, 2007 9:16 pm

Did not want to clog this thread so I moved my MFX findings HERE
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Lagrange
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5688 posts since 22 Sep, 2005

Postby Lagrange; Mon May 07, 2007 5:01 am

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shamann
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12277 posts since 18 Aug, 2003, from Toronto

Postby shamann; Mon May 07, 2007 5:35 am

Lagrange wrote:Just wondering if anyone else has tryed the MFX wrapper and had any success. If yes, in what host (other than the ones listed plz)...

I've successfully gotten MFX plugins to show up in both Bidule and eXT. I have, as yet, not figured out a way to get them to work at all.

In Sonar, MFX are run as off-line processes, aren't they (I only ever used them back in the old Cakewalk days, so I don't know how they work now)? Perhaps that's the problem I've run into, in that I've only tried to use them as live MIDI filters/generators, which hasn't seemed to work as yet.

Lagrange wrote:Another question, why is this thread not in effects? hmm

Wrappers are considered hosts.
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whyterabbyt
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21475 posts since 3 Sep, 2001, from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Postby whyterabbyt; Mon May 07, 2007 5:50 am

shamann wrote:
In Sonar, MFX are run as off-line processes, aren't they (I only ever used them back in the old Cakewalk days, so I don't know how they work now)? Perhaps that's the problem I've run into, in that I've only tried to use them as live MIDI filters/generators, which hasn't seemed to work as yet.


Nope. They can be used offline, or work in realtime.
To laymen, software development is something akin to wizardry. Neither time, nor effort are involved. If software is missing features they want, or has bugs, it is solely because someone has been too lazy to wave their magic wand.
shamann
KVRAF
 
12277 posts since 18 Aug, 2003, from Toronto

Postby shamann; Mon May 07, 2007 5:56 am

Hmmm. Wonder what the trick is to get them to work within the wrapper, then?
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Arksun
KVRian
 
915 posts since 28 May, 2002, from UK

Postby Arksun; Mon May 07, 2007 6:00 am

So with this I could use my old direct-X plugs in Cubase 4?.

If so, Rock on! :D
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