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rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:47 am

usually I do different stuff

but I had a play with GURU these days,
so I came up with some kind of a club-dance-mix
or whatever

it's three instances of GURU live recorded in eXT 1.4

it's about 18 min long

please listen and give any comments

G-DANCE

Big Karma · Post by **Big Karma** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:09 pm

ohhhhhhhhh! hello - will check this when I get home

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:29 pm

fantastic! better than coffee this morning. really good mix, too.
I never could get the hang of sequencing in eXT 1.4 (although I'm using XT2 quite a bit now). anyway, this is worth listening to again (will probably stick on my ipod for the commute to work)

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:36 pm

thanks bluedad

I used the live record mode in energyXT

no sequencing used here,

I just loaded the instances of GURU,
loaded a mixer comp for the individual outputs,
and I assigned my midi controller to the volume faders of the mixer.
I let the GURUs run all the time,
all the mixing/sequencing is done live via the volume levels of the mixer channels.
Thats it.

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:19 pm

nothing more?

too bad???

Big Karma · Post by **Big Karma** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:09 pm

just finally getting first listen now - love the bounding beat combined with that snappy sound.

A veritable monster mix up and mash at over 17 minutes!!

Thanks for the share and hope all is well with you

Some of the mixes in and out of the beats confused me a bit though but that might just be my ears

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:47 pm

thanks BK

yes I understand your confusion,
I need to learn a bit better to mix live,
that might help, with the beats mixing.

I'm fine and have a week off,
but I am painting my kitchen and cleaning the house

and doing some music

I hope you're fine aswell.
Sorry I couldn't come this year,
I hope next year I gonna make it.

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:39 pm

no one else comments?

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:23 pm

too bad for comments?
after 147 views only two

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:20 pm

"...about 18 minutes long..." And you wonder why you get a lot of views and only a few comments?

I'm patiently waiting for this to come to papa for a listen. BRB...

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:25 pm

Okay, playing now . . . where are my glow sticks?

Can never find the damn things when I need them . . . !

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:34 pm

Okay . . . my real opinion is, to quote Fats Waller, "All that meat and no potatoes."

By that I mean, it sounds like just what you described--you set up 3 GURU tracks and then experimented mixing them live together. What's missing is an overall direction and any melodic focus. It's interesting for me to listen to from a production point of view, though. I'm trying to imagine how you've got it set up and how you're controlling it all. I've always felt that the missing element in electronic music is an organized way of improvising or jamming on extended mixes. The artist is pretty much left to figure out how to accomplish that. Every effort I've made with it ends up sounding unfocused and a bit stilted...

Anyway, thanks for sharing!

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:39 pm

emdot_ambient wrote:"...about 18 minutes long..." And you wonder why you get a lot of views and only a few comments?

well here on my DSL it's dl'ed in no time

and commenting while listening should be easy

well I don't use glow sticks here,
only my old disco mirrorball and colour organ.

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:47 pm

emdot_ambient wrote:Okay . . . my real opinion is, to quote Fats Waller, "All that meat and no potatoes."

By that I mean, it sounds like just what you described--you set up 3 GURU tracks and then experimented mixing them live together. What's missing is an overall direction and any melodic focus. It's interesting for me to listen to from a production point of view, though. I'm trying to imagine how you've got it set up and how you're controlling it all. I've always felt that the missing element in electronic music is an organized way of improvising or jamming on extended mixes. The artist is pretty much left to figure out how to accomplish that. Every effort I've made with it ends up sounding unfocused and a bit stilted...

Anyway, thanks for sharing!

I really understand what you mean,

that is my first try,
and I share your feeling,
I think it could be better with a bit of sequencing,
and maybe better choice of loops

... but would that be important in a live situation?
this a serious question, sometimes I feel that we
have a different perception of live performances
compared to studio pieces.
we don't hear, feel, remeber faults and mistakes that much,
as on material that we can listen repeated.
Or???

But I'm sure I need more training for doing real live gigs.

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:03 pm

rsmus7 wrote:... but would that be important in a live situation?
this a serious question, sometimes I feel that we
have a different perception of live performances
compared to studio pieces...

Serious answer: I think that would depend on the party and the people

I've never had the pleasure of hearing good techno (as an old man I reserve the right to use that term to mean "electronic dance music that's not disco", not as a specific genre/subgenre) played live. I tried to go to a rave back in the mid-90s with a young associate from work who was really into it, but the evening turned into a total fiasco with the event being scheduled in Baltimore, and then unannounced being switched to a bad club in SE Washington DC where you had a choice of a seemingly unending drum & bass song on one dance floor and some truly horrible happy house music on another floor, which was very nearly as bad as the worst disco nightmare from my college days.

But it seems to me a live performance that really grabs you and holds you is one that goes on endlessly but that has a directed and compelling focus. If it's all beat, then the beats not only have to be infectious, but also varied enough that they don't get boring. If an interesting (if simple) melodic thread is interwoven into that, then you've got the thing licked.

Clear as mud?

first try on ???? dance (clubby)????--- need feedback