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Roland D50 VST

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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KVRer
 
11 posts since 8 Nov, 2006

Postby dadadalei-lama; Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:20 am

I am looking for a Roland D50 VSTplugin. Does anything comparable exist?

Thanks
KVRAF
 
3081 posts since 17 Aug, 2004

Postby kmonkey; Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:11 am

No. sorry to tell you that but no. Nothing came close. I tested everything and yes i mean really alot of plugins. Only thing i found to be somewhat same to one degree regarding synthesis (there are nice FX too in D50) is SonicCore Vectron:
http://www.sonic-core.net/en/products/s ... mpler.html


But even that synth can not do what D50 - D-550 can. You can mimic bells in Vectron etc but forget it regarding emulation. IMO you should buy that synth. They goes pretty cheap now. D-550 is rack mounted same synth, you can find a lot of nice VST editors, banks, patches etc. and you have real deal with good sound.
KVRAF
 
1784 posts since 23 Dec, 2003

Postby Dr.Wu; Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:32 am

havent tried it myself but puremagnetik claims that they have a collection of sounds that resembles the D-50.

http://puremagnetik.com/index.php?optio ... Itemid=118
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KVRAF
 
2458 posts since 16 Mar, 2003, from Porto - Portugal

Postby fmr; Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:07 am

dadadalei-lama wrote:I am looking for a Roland D50 VSTplugin. Does anything comparable exist?

Thanks


There was a Reaktor ensemble made by William K (author of Wusikstation) under the name Dash Synhtesis, that emulates D50 pretty well. But it's not available anymore I'm afraid, and I had to rework it completely to make it compatible with current version.
Fernando (FMR)
KVRAF
 
3822 posts since 16 Apr, 2002, from Scotland

Postby scuzzphut; Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:15 am

...or if you don't want to buy an old D-50 - there's always the Roland product
http://www.roland.com/products/en/VC-1/index.html

a D-50 on a card for Varios or V-Synth
KVRian
 
562 posts since 22 Dec, 2004, from norway
 

Postby gunnare; Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:30 am

The D50 is very cheap these days. Buy the hardware synth. Nobody wants them. I have one here. I never use it. All my VSTi instruments sound better. There is a lack of lows and highs in the sound of the instrument that makes it sound a little bit dull.

All the best
gunnare
KVRer
 
11 posts since 8 Nov, 2006

Postby dadadalei-lama; Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:33 am

The price for a D50 is low, well, but I have stopped using hardware instruments. Plugins are much better to handle. Programming of synths like the D50 can be done easier and faster.
But I have to ask myself, why there is no real D50-Clone? You can have tons of VA-Synths, analog ones or fm-machines.

Maybe in future...
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KVRAF
 
9289 posts since 22 Jul, 2002, from Eagan, MN

Postby ew; Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:36 am

dadadalei-lama wrote:But I have to ask myself, why there is no real D50-Clone?

Roland and their lawyers.

Maybe in future...

Probably not unless Roland themselves put it out (which is highly unlikely).

ew
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KVRian
 
1409 posts since 9 May, 2003, from Manchester, UK
 

Postby Manc Chris; Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:37 am

dadadalei-lama wrote:But I have to ask myself, why there is no real D50-Clone?


If you do ask yourself .. and get a decent answer, can you let me know? I wanna do early Duran Duran too. 8)
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KVRist
 
473 posts since 31 Jan, 2003

Postby mao; Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:55 am

If you like it's warm spaciuos pads... well buy it. I bought mine years ago... and I bought the MEX expansion... and well... yes still using it. The classic bells, jams, spectrum sounds are boring these days but forget the PCM structure and use it as a real warm spaciuos synth. It's really fat and warm... At the moment I have no vst being able to replicate it's full warm tone. Take a listen to Spacious Sweep preset... it's pure heaven.
KVRAF
 
3880 posts since 23 Mar, 2006, from pendeLondonmonium
 

Postby himalaya; Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:39 pm

Would you be able to post an mp3 of this preset ? Just play a c major.
:)
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KVRAF
 
3888 posts since 6 Aug, 2003, from San Francisco Bay Area

Postby deastman; Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:02 pm

Manc Chris wrote:
dadadalei-lama wrote:But I have to ask myself, why there is no real D50-Clone?


If you do ask yourself .. and get a decent answer, can you let me know? I wanna do early Duran Duran too. 8)

Actually, the D-50 was released in 1987. The early Duran Duran albums were released as follows:

Duran Duran - 1981
Rio - 1982
Seven and the Ragged Tiger - 1983
Notorious - 1986

:P

A friend of mine has a D-50, and I've been bugging him to sample the raw waves from it, with the eventual goal of building an emulation in Reaktor. Shouldn't be too difficult, effects section not withstanding.
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KVRAF
 
7030 posts since 19 Feb, 2004, from Paris
 

Postby Lotuzia; Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:08 pm

mao wrote:If you like it's warm spaciuos pads... well buy it. I bought mine years ago... and I bought the MEX expansion... and well... yes still using it. The classic bells, jams, spectrum sounds are boring these days but forget the PCM structure and use it as a real warm spaciuos synth. It's really fat and warm... At the moment I have no vst being able to replicate it's full warm tone. Take a listen to Spacious Sweep preset... it's pure heaven.


Totally agree with the above.

My d50 also have the Mexx expansion. Gives more osc/per patch and huge sound.

Still some patches using these early PCM still sound great. And I try to program kinda D50 "arco stringz" :love: patches very often when I put my hands on a new synth. Pizzis had some character too.

Not even Roland did succeed to offer these kind of strings in their following synths.

Oh and to answer the post in a less elliptic way than EW did (though ha was perfectly- right) : You wont find any D50 Vsti because its half PCM (read sample in rom) synthesis, and Roland owns the rights on the samples the d50 uses and wont allow any other company to use them.

Hope this helps

LotuZia
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KVRian
 
552 posts since 13 Oct, 2002

Postby dhanjit; Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:14 pm

There is a Reason Refill based on samples of a D50:
http://www.reasonbanks.com/refill_DF.html
KVRAF
 
4295 posts since 9 Apr, 2003, from Right here, in front of my computer...

Postby beej; Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:34 pm

Actually, my XV5080 has a bunch of D-50 sourced waves (as well as other Roland boxes), and can do passable D-50 impressions (albeit with a few limitations and you have to lo-fi it down a bit too). I've been recreating the famous D-50 Soundtrack patch for the 5080 (which doesn't use any samples).

Of course, the waves in the D-50 that are the really recognisable ones are the samples - and I think they were actually done by Spectrasonics - or at least Eric had a hand in them. I know that Spectrasonics owns and licenses some of the content to Roland (eg the V-Drums content)
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