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Author Topic: DC09 Wishlist
tuz
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:36 pm reply with quote
What would you like to see in DC09? (Entries, rules, prizes, etc.)
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de la Mancha
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:36 am reply with quote
I'd like to see it mostly the same as last year. There is always talk of having different categories, splitting out mac from pc or synths from effects. Or suggestions to drive an improvement in quality (whatever that means) and making the entries more 'pro' (again, whatever that means).

Personally, I like it as it is, a fun celebration of freeware, the emphasis on participation and freedom to experiment.

here's my wishes

- a simple structure, not complicated by categories, platforms, synth/effect splits etc. Like last year, everyone in one big category

- No updates or changes to the plugin after submission, unless it is a bugfix. ie no extra features, presets or functionality
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whyterabbyt
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:27 am reply with quote
votes counted by percentage according to platform. that way its fairer to the developers.

in practice : each plugin would be tagged according to platform categories ie mac+pc OR mac-only OR windows-only OR linux (etc)

total votes would be calculated for each plugin, as well as each platform category.

then the entries would be rated according to (votes/category total) for their category, and then sorted as a single winner list across all categories...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:11 am reply with quote
Let the hunt for the unpopular platforms begin Wink
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dacaumodo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:15 am reply with quote
The mother of all arp Midi FXs.

One that would work with any synth. Xoxos's arp4midi is great already (my favourite among free stuff), but I'm sure there's room for development there.

How about an Arp Midi FX that would also include sequenced CC parameter automation ? I suppose this would be a mother to debug...But just imagine.

An arp section + a few LFOs assignable to CC of the synth you're using it with + a few step sequencers whose ouput is assignable to CC of said synth.

And how about an arp function that would reproduce left hand/right hand playing? Like (humanizable= chords on lower notes, and arpeggions/melodies on the left?

Ah, dreams, dreams...
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whyterabbyt
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:18 am reply with quote
stefancrs wrote:
Let the hunt for the unpopular platforms begin Wink



hmmm. i do see what you mean, so some sort of finessing for the 'one beos plugin with one vote' situation would be needed. but there should still be some way to compensate fairly for the popularity of the platform (or a platform's tools) skewing results...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:48 am reply with quote
i'd just like to see it go ahead (soonish) Wink
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xoxos
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:59 am reply with quote
it's a good time, most people are indoors with less to do.

how about a straight 50/50 split on voting vectors...



  (# votes)            (# votes)
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(total votes)     (votes by platform)

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                 2




ensures some representation, would prohibit flukes, isn't too complex :p
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Acrobat
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:40 am reply with quote
at present situation, that method will advantage mac developers
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:49 am reply with quote
I want another colorful EQ like Pushtec. Also, a colorful compressor would be cool. I always like to see novel delays and reverbs as well. I'm always on the lookout for a good sounding amp sim or distortion. Good distortion, even the best ones, are sorely lacking in software.
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GaryG
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:50 am reply with quote
I think something to encourage mac development would be welcome. It's always being noted how there's a dearth of freeware for the mac. Maybe an existing mac developer can offer a special prize, only available to the most popular mac creations? The lack of competition could spur a few developers into action. Smile

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sunahura
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:32 am reply with quote
GaryG wrote:
I think something to encourage mac development would be welcome. It's always being noted how there's a dearth of freeware for the mac. Maybe an existing mac developer can offer a special prize, only available to the most popular mac creations? The lack of competition could spur a few developers into action. Smile

.g


The problem with mac development is that mac keeps the development of software very restricted, I know you've heard of "open source" we should call Mac "close source", because they lock programmers out of thier system constantly. Every upgrade is an attempt to close the resources needed to freely program. So this is something Apple has to encourage.

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Any way I would like to see something like last year, I'll definitely
be bringing a "SWEET GIRL" to the party. This time I'm making a synth.
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duncanparsons
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:39 am reply with quote
(hey sunahura Smile - did you get my PM?)
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jobromedia
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:28 am reply with quote
Support for Reaktor ensembles so Mac users who owns Reaktor can run my plugin.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:55 am reply with quote
Hi,

Shocked I do not want any PAYWARES than REAKTOR in a FREEWARE challenge!

about apple:
Please do not advantage this platform...
why:
The Mac users have Windows on theirs machines but we cannot use OSX on a PC. Wink

and avoid to help any commercial urls!

the first idea of this dc is to help unkown freeware devs...

I can present a good plugin initially make for another forum but I'm not sure this will depend of the dc's rules

I said that in an old post:

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1- It's clear, the prizes are a way to get a focus of the freeware development, it's not the finality of the DC, I hope.

But the managment of them by Tuz or Ben spending their time and the com can be too centered about this finality.

2- One prize for each category can be good but imagine one medail for all type of sport on the JO.

The principal difficulty of the DC is the number of the entries.

Eg:
if you scearch a good free FX, you will try in priority the Fx and you can forgot the synthes etc...
Or to find where is the new ideas inside a plugin, you must try a plugin more than five minutes.

41*(5 min + 5 min for download + 5 min to install)=615 min = 10 Hours!

10 hours and more is not a web timing!

If you want win the DC, you must format your plugin for these parameters!

It's exatly the same thing than if you provide a payware and you want money, you must do a work for the majority of the users.

This ideas are very global, of course, I don't really think that...

So, to solve these problems, in the DC page, the plugins should be classified by category, not with the name.
And the description text should be rewrite all time by the dev if he wants correct the text.
Or if an user cannot try some pugins or categories, his vote cannot have the same value than if he tries all.
His vote must have a proportionnal value by his downloaded files.


eg: you try only 10 plugs, your vote = 10/41 = -/+ 0.25



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