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But should I choose the AKG K240 Studio Editions or the K601?
I have a budget of £200.
I'd also love to hear your experiences with the AKG K240s.
.Thank you.
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- KVRist
- 87 posts since 20 Sep, 2009
Im looking to buy new headphones for mixing.
DON'T START THREADS SAYING I CAN'T DO THAT!
But should I choose the AKG K240 Studio Editions or the K601?
I have a budget of £200.
I'd also love to hear your experiences with the AKG K240s..
Thank you.
DON'T START THREADS SAYING I CAN'T DO THAT!
But should I choose the AKG K240 Studio Editions or the K601?
I have a budget of £200.
I'd also love to hear your experiences with the AKG K240s.
.Thank you.
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000
Mark - this is the AMG forum old chap. Moved to "Everything Else".
Kind regards
Dave
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Kind regards
Dave
Muon Software Ltd
AMG forum moderator
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- KVRist
- 447 posts since 23 Mar, 2008 from so whos got a blowfelt?
having never used any akg phones I still want to chime in. First, the new akg phones just released use exactly the same drivers as the 701. Akgs comes in 3 flavours: closed/open/semiopen. Their best phones are the 701 model (and the new one in black). If you gonna mix and make music in phones I would strongly suggest you buy "open" phones then when your economy lets you, you get a pair of closed ones, open phones are much much more comfortable and you can wear a good pair all day long without getting some kind of fatigue.
Things I heard regarding akgs in general (and 701): akgs dont have any bass, akgs sounds very "pure" and natural (dont know how natural that is without bass tho..), akgs give fake stereo scenery (701, too wide), akgs make voices sound unnatural (some users found them to be so bad they just couldnt use them anymore), akgs needs separate headphone amps to sound good (more juice).
There, I just condensed like 24 hours of researching akg phones for you.
I was in store not too long ago looking to maybe buy akg 701, but they felt very low quality mechanically, flimsy fragile plastic, i dont think they will last very long, they felt cheap. I didnt get them.
I like sennheiser, I have the hd650 model, lots of bass, well it sounds just like my speaker system, which sounds natural to me. They have lasted for a long time, I got them when they were first released (5 years or so? dont remember)and I have used them almost every day since then, avaraging like 3 hours daily I even dj:d with them at home for a few years, I must have accidentially dropped them over 100 times from like a meter, still going strong.
If a phone lacks bass, thats quite a big flaw I'd say, totally unacceptable actually, then again I havent actually heard any akgs, but alot of other people have and they have compared them to other phones and argued, and thats enough for me then I dont have to.
If you gonna get akgs get they best ones I'd say.
Things I heard regarding akgs in general (and 701): akgs dont have any bass, akgs sounds very "pure" and natural (dont know how natural that is without bass tho..), akgs give fake stereo scenery (701, too wide), akgs make voices sound unnatural (some users found them to be so bad they just couldnt use them anymore), akgs needs separate headphone amps to sound good (more juice).
There, I just condensed like 24 hours of researching akg phones for you.
I was in store not too long ago looking to maybe buy akg 701, but they felt very low quality mechanically, flimsy fragile plastic, i dont think they will last very long, they felt cheap. I didnt get them.
I like sennheiser, I have the hd650 model, lots of bass, well it sounds just like my speaker system, which sounds natural to me. They have lasted for a long time, I got them when they were first released (5 years or so? dont remember)and I have used them almost every day since then, avaraging like 3 hours daily I even dj:d with them at home for a few years, I must have accidentially dropped them over 100 times from like a meter, still going strong.
If a phone lacks bass, thats quite a big flaw I'd say, totally unacceptable actually, then again I havent actually heard any akgs, but alot of other people have and they have compared them to other phones and argued, and thats enough for me then I dont have to.
If you gonna get akgs get they best ones I'd say.
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Berlin, Germany
Most stuff is not true.DeepFiber wrote:Things I heard regarding akgs in general (and 701): akgs dont have any bass, akgs sounds very "pure" and natural (dont know how natural that is without bass tho..), akgs give fake stereo scenery (701, too wide), akgs make voices sound unnatural (some users found them to be so bad they just couldnt use them anymore), akgs needs separate headphone amps to sound good (more juice).
I have the AKG K601 and they sound very natural (also on voices .. they're natural on everything).
Besides that, every headphone gives a fake stereo-scenareo. But headphones differ in how they do it. Bad headphones put the sound directly on your ears (which fatigues the ears quite fast and is maximum-unrealistic). The AKG K601/K701 give you a much more "open" scenareo. They don't make the stereo-field wider, they make the sound appear not so close in your ears.
And no, you don't need "seperate amps" for the K601. They have 120Ohm impedance ... they work on every normal headphone-amp as well as on MP3-players.
And the AKG K601 have just the right amount of bass. The K701 have not enough bass.
Generally I think the K601 is the better one. Also because the "virtual space" of the K701 is imo really to much for most music-genres ... with the K601 it's just about right in my opinion.
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- KVRian
- 951 posts since 18 Jun, 2004 from Here I am.
I have the 271 model (which is the 240 but closed version) and I simply LOVE it.
True it doesn't have as much bass as many other heaphones but that's what sounds neutral to me.
Low frequencies appear to sound lower on level when played at the same volume as high freqs.
Except bass, whenever I mix something on the 271, I have hardly any tweaks to do when back on monitors.
And never had any surprise with stereo field compared to the mains, except the usual reverb tail which is often clearer on headphones (and space effects in general), but nothing exagerated as such.
If I had to buy again headphones I'd get the 240 since it's open (or semi open don't remember) and it'd be less ear-fatiguing.
Never had the chance to try the 601 so I won't comment on them (thus I didn't vote).
True it doesn't have as much bass as many other heaphones but that's what sounds neutral to me.
Low frequencies appear to sound lower on level when played at the same volume as high freqs.
Except bass, whenever I mix something on the 271, I have hardly any tweaks to do when back on monitors.
And never had any surprise with stereo field compared to the mains, except the usual reverb tail which is often clearer on headphones (and space effects in general), but nothing exagerated as such.
If I had to buy again headphones I'd get the 240 since it's open (or semi open don't remember) and it'd be less ear-fatiguing.
Never had the chance to try the 601 so I won't comment on them (thus I didn't vote).
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- KVRian
- 1477 posts since 16 Jul, 2007 from In limbo
Hi Mark
It's a teasing question, but I'd say get yourself the AKG 240s (which are well respected), and also the 112DB Redline Monitor plug-in if you haven't already, (Redline Monitor is the best monitor recreation plug-in for headphones available and costs about £95).
Together these puppies should set you back about £200-£230, which although slightly over your budget are a great bang-for-buck combo. (It's what I use anyway when I'm not on monitors)
Thanks
Doug
It's a teasing question, but I'd say get yourself the AKG 240s (which are well respected), and also the 112DB Redline Monitor plug-in if you haven't already, (Redline Monitor is the best monitor recreation plug-in for headphones available and costs about £95).
Together these puppies should set you back about £200-£230, which although slightly over your budget are a great bang-for-buck combo. (It's what I use anyway when I'm not on monitors)
Thanks
Doug
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Berlin, Germany
Really? Totally overlooked that one. Tried a bunch of other tools, and all were dissappointing except for Isone Pro (which is rather good).Doug1978 wrote:..., and also the 112DB Redline Monitor plug-in if you haven't already, (Redline Monitor is the best monitor recreation plug-in for headphones available and costs about £95).
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- KVRian
- 1477 posts since 16 Jul, 2007 from In limbo
Hi Nokenoku
Redline Monitor is definitely very good (as some other KVR forum threads concur, and the testimonials are also excellent on the 112db site, which may possibly help to sway you!).
I wouldn't like to say if Redline is any better than Isone Pro though, as I haven't tried Isone out yet (mainly because I'm very happy with how the Redline plug-in does its magic for me!).
Perhaps I should take back that claim about it being the best plug-in though?
Anyway, good luck with the mixing.
Doug
Redline Monitor is definitely very good (as some other KVR forum threads concur, and the testimonials are also excellent on the 112db site, which may possibly help to sway you!).
I wouldn't like to say if Redline is any better than Isone Pro though, as I haven't tried Isone out yet (mainly because I'm very happy with how the Redline plug-in does its magic for me!).
Perhaps I should take back that claim about it being the best plug-in though?
Anyway, good luck with the mixing.
Doug
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I have used my K240 Studio cans for almost five years now, and they are great. Very flat frequency response. But the statement about them having no bass is false. They do. They just don't enhance your bass like a closed design or like DJ headphones will do. They just give it to you accurately. Also, never once on any source have I needed an amp. That isn't true either. They put out enough power on their own.
I love them. They are pretty comfortable as well. So I would recommend them for sure. I haven't used the other model you asked about, but you can't go wrong with the K240s. There is a reason why they are so popular in studios and so often recommended around here and other places. It's because they are excellent cans for the price.
Brent
I love them. They are pretty comfortable as well. So I would recommend them for sure. I haven't used the other model you asked about, but you can't go wrong with the K240s. There is a reason why they are so popular in studios and so often recommended around here and other places. It's because they are excellent cans for the price.
Brent
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- KVRist
- 41 posts since 16 Jul, 2009
Hi Mark,
I've been using an AKG K240DF for some years now as my main monitor headphone at work and wanted to buy another one for private use. As the K240DF is no longer produced, I bought a K240S. The longer I used it, the more I was disappointed by it. Finally I took some time to compare it with a K240MKII, a K601, and a K701. The newer MKII version had the same low frequency resonance as my K240S and sounds as muffled. The K601 and K701 are much more brilliant and can reproduce ultra-low frequencies without having this resonance. I have a nice Mahler recording where the mic picked up some kind of air ventilation which is reproduced by the K601 and K701. You don't hear it, you feel it - it's simply amazing! And they do not have this HiFi characteristics as, e.g., the Beyerdynamics DT-770 used by my colleagues which sound too crisp for my taste. I'm using now the K601 and am completely satisfied with it.
Cheers,
CHristian
I've been using an AKG K240DF for some years now as my main monitor headphone at work and wanted to buy another one for private use. As the K240DF is no longer produced, I bought a K240S. The longer I used it, the more I was disappointed by it. Finally I took some time to compare it with a K240MKII, a K601, and a K701. The newer MKII version had the same low frequency resonance as my K240S and sounds as muffled. The K601 and K701 are much more brilliant and can reproduce ultra-low frequencies without having this resonance. I have a nice Mahler recording where the mic picked up some kind of air ventilation which is reproduced by the K601 and K701. You don't hear it, you feel it - it's simply amazing! And they do not have this HiFi characteristics as, e.g., the Beyerdynamics DT-770 used by my colleagues which sound too crisp for my taste. I'm using now the K601 and am completely satisfied with it.
Cheers,
CHristian
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 87 posts since 20 Sep, 2009
Some really useful reviews thanks very much for those with useful input. I don't want heightened bass or anything. I want them for monitoring, not tracking or listening to. Thanks very much. I think i will get the 701s in the end.
But which one now? Isone Pro or Redline?
I'm running OSX, Logic, Ableton and Pro Tools.
But which one now? Isone Pro or Redline?
I'm running OSX, Logic, Ableton and Pro Tools.