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using MIDI to toggle patches?

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KVRAF
 
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Postby bpblog; Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:19 am using MIDI to toggle patches?

hi everyone,

is there a way to change a patch (program) using MIDI controls? the Helix patch system is indeed useful for organizing patches into different banks, but having to use a mouse all the time can be a pain.
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Postby sunhome; Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:24 am

+1

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Postby MaliceX; Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:20 am

This actually used to be a feature (beta) but was since removed in preference for the current patch loading system. I kinda wondered about that myself, though there were load spiking issues when switching between patches at the time.

Perhaps maybe a system that incorporates the best of both worlds... preloading a number of favourite patches to a bank in memory, which can be switchable (or possibly layered) via program change or MIDI channel? (Oh boy, multitimbrality.)
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Postby JonasNorberg; Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:34 pm

bpblog wrote:hi everyone,

is there a way to change a patch (program) using MIDI controls? the Helix patch system is indeed useful for organizing patches into different banks, but having to use a mouse all the time can be a pain.
There is no way to do this in helix I'm afraid... it makes sense if you have midi-banks and midi-patches, but the organization of patches becomes compromised.
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Postby MaliceX; Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:29 am

JonasNorberg wrote:
bpblog wrote:hi everyone,

is there a way to change a patch (program) using MIDI controls? the Helix patch system is indeed useful for organizing patches into different banks, but having to use a mouse all the time can be a pain.
There is no way to do this in helix I'm afraid... it makes sense if you have midi-banks and midi-patches, but the organization of patches becomes compromised.


Actually, now that I think of it, Hypersonic kinda has the best of both worlds with the way it handles patch organization.

Bank MSB controls patch category (CC0/Bank Select I think)
Program Change controlling patches respectively.

Though Helix deals with this in two category levels rather than one..what would you say would be the difficulty of having a system setup like this?

Bank MSB (CC0) - Bank select
Bank LSB (CC32) - Subcategory select
Program Change - Patch select

Of course this would mean each dimension of the array would have to be limited to 128 (0-127) selectable choices each, but we're talking a theoretical maximum capacity of 127*127*127 patches anyway. :P
I'm not sure if there were other synths with a similar preset organizing system, that also could respond to MIDI program change. :3

Anywho, just my two cents. :3

PS: if it were implemented, that would be more of a reason to make a GM-friendly Helix soundset. xD

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