How to synthesize breathing?

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It's amazing how many types of breathing there are, so think of a distressed heavy breathing.
ie heavy/deep but not sexual. Like a horror film type...

And I'm mainly interested in the breathing in part.
It must start with white noise but how do I get a sucking start to the note?
It seems like the pitch must need to rise faster than the amplitude attack.

And then at the end of the breath theres a sharp release but the pitch needs to move again.

Now I think about it can it even be done with the standard ADSR?
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Mushy Mushy wrote:Now I think about it can it even be done with the standard ADSR?
Nor do I... I would lean more towards the techniques employed when creating 'reversed-cymbals'.

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My first attempt.
Need to play with the envelopes a bit, but it's getting there.

Click here to listen to Breathing 01b.mp3
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hiss from an amp pluggin, a compressor and sidechaining?
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Hink wrote:hiss from an amp pluggin, a compressor and sidechaining?
Really, it's that bad?
Guess I better keep trying. :oops:
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Mushy Mushy wrote:My first attempt.
Need to play with the envelopes a bit, but it's getting there.

Click here to listen to Breathing 01b.mp3
It def sounds like "blowing" anyway. :)
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Shabdahbriah wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote:My first attempt.
Need to play with the envelopes a bit, but it's getting there.

Click here to listen to Breathing 01b.mp3
It def sounds like "blowing" anyway. :)
LOL Guess it's a sign I need to go to bed. Thx for your comments mate...
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plenty of different ways. i think fauna vst has a preset that will get you close.
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I would look at www.karmafx.dk and see what that modular synth can do. It's very flexible in regard to what modulates what.

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I use white noise in front of a (Roland) flanger at the start of my track Marigold.
It's slow breathing, but you get the idea.
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... _part1.mp3
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lfm wrote:I would look at www.karmafx.dk and see what that modular synth can do. It's very flexible in regard to what modulates what.
I have no doubt whatsoever Karma could do this with it's eyes closed.

The sound will eventually be drenched in reverb and hidden right at the back of the track, so I don't want to spend 2 weeks creating it - although it would be very rewarding.
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annode wrote:I use white noise in front of a (Roland) flanger at the start of my track Marigold.
It's slow breathing, but you get the idea.
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... _part1.mp3
Does sound great mate, but if I'm completely honest I can't hear breathing in it. Just a very thick gorgeous flanger.
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try formant filters on the noise source.
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Does sound great mate, but if I'm completely honest I can't hear breathing in it. Just a very thick gorgeous flanger.
Thank you.
The breathing was meant to be lite as if falling asleep, and that i'm sure must be clear.
Sorry, that's all I got. :)

EDIT: I posted that to show how a flanger can sound like breath. If you were to increase the LFO speed and doctor it to your liking, you might get what your after.
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Ah_Dziz wrote:try formant filters on the noise source.
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Just changed to a comb filter (same as a formant?) and it made a huge difference.
Getting very close now. Sounds like it's coming from the nose now though, but it's VERY close. I'm hugely impressed with myself LOL
I think a bit of envelope mod and I'm there...

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