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De-essers. Which are the best ones?
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MiraclesJoe
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:26 am reply with quote
I use logic and I find the logic de-esser absolutely aweful. Any suggestions for stand alone de-essers that sound great? The cheaper the better, in fact any free ones that are good?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:29 am reply with quote
Spitfish is really great! And it's free! Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:58 am reply with quote
Unless I'm mistaken, Fishfillets (of which Spitfish is a subset) is only PPC. While our hero Urs Heckman made it OS X compatible (almost 10 years ago?), it's not universal binary and so doesn't work on Mac Intel…

Just to check, I downloaded and installed the AU and it doesn't show up in any of my DAWs.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:16 am reply with quote
TB DeEsser part of a bundle of nice plug-ins.
It's good and very reasonably priced.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/5746
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:22 am reply with quote
Resonator63 wrote:
TB DeEsser part of a bundle of nice plug-ins.
It's good and very reasonably priced.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/5746


Really nice and constantly getting better - I'm usually done with that one (and sometimes Cubase DeEsser). MDynamicEQ can effectively reduce sibilance as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:25 am reply with quote
problem is TB is vst only, OP uses logic.

Free.. hmm.. no.

Good, well yes, the Sonnox is amazing, the new dual band spl one is quite good too from plugin alliance.

I have both and between them can always find the right balance to handle any de ess task.

The other option is of course to use logic's built in compressor which can do a *great* job, as could a multiband compressor or any other single band compressor with built in sidechain (pro C fro example)

Here is some tips with logic's compressor to save you money:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/381284-using- logic-pro-compressor-de-esser.html
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:28 am reply with quote
ttoz wrote:
problem is TB is vst only, OP uses logic.


forgot it's not AU... D'oh!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:28 am reply with quote
honestly, I just use a multiband compressor.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:31 am reply with quote
Amon1973 wrote:
ttoz wrote:
problem is TB is vst only, OP uses logic.


forgot it's not AU... D'oh!


Same here D'oh!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:37 am reply with quote
In the "real" world if there is a large enough budget (and thus time) you simply automate every single 'ess' sound. Usually with volume + EQ. It's tedious and it takes some time, sometimes a whole day if you have tons of vocal takes, but the results are superior to even the best de-esser out there.

Having said that, it might be worth exploring Voxengo Voxformer which includes a very flexible de-esser section. All new voxengo plugins are AU! Smile

If you need a de-esser for hihats or drum overheads then I think the voxengo one will do just fine. You can also use logic's built in multiband very effectively (or the normal compressor and it's sidechain, like ttoz said).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:24 am reply with quote
Just for the record, there are (at least) two ways to host VSTs as AUs, in Logic for instance: either Plogue Bidule or DDMF Meta Plugin (just updated to v. 2.2, btw).

/Joachim
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:31 am reply with quote
bmanic wrote:
In the "real" world if there is a large enough budget (and thus time) you simply automate every single 'ess' sound. Usually with volume + EQ.


Or you can edit / process offline - the way I go when DeEssers don't deliver satisfying results (just my personal preference, of course).
I tend to avoid multiband / dyn EQ to spare some CPU, can be a pain if you apply them to many tracks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:07 am reply with quote
I've had the hardest time finding an affordable, usable de-essers in AU format.

I grabbed the Waves De-esser when it was on major sale a few months ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:21 am reply with quote
Never been a fan of the regular Waves De-Esser, but I love the Rennaissance De-Esser and it's pretty affordable. That, and Eiosis E2 (not cheap) are my go-to de-essers. I just with that Eiosis would get with the times and release a 64-bit version.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:20 am reply with quote
bmanic wrote:
In the "real" world if there is a large enough budget (and thus time) you simply automate every single 'ess' sound. Usually with volume + EQ. It's tedious and it takes some time, sometimes a whole day if you have tons of vocal takes, but the results are superior to even the best de-esser out there.

Cheers!
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Yep. I use Eiosis E2 and I think back when I bought it, I was hoping (unrealistically, I guess) for something good enough to be a "set it and forget it" kind of thing to largely eliminate the tedious process of drawing volume dips on sibilants. Ain't so...it gets the job done partway but I still have to go in and manually reduce a lot of the sibilants even further.
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