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Ableton question: MIDI on multiple channels
AdmiralQuality
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:43 pm reply with quote
Hi all,

Does anybody know how to route multiple channels of MIDI (like you get from a MIDI guitar controller) to a single instrument plug-in in Ableton? I'm trying to help someone who's finding Ableton is converting all the channels to channel 1.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:43 am reply with quote
I'm not quite sure what is your problem, but open In/Out section to manage MIDI routing. Click on I/O button at the right side.

There you'll have something like this:


Under "MIDI From" the first selector allows you to choose MIDI source, the second selector allows you to choose MIDI channel.
Under "MIDI To" the first selector allows you to choose destination track, the second selector allows you to choose destination plugin.

In addition, you can use "External Instrument" plugin (it's in Ableton Live's instruments). This plugin routes MIDI to the specified plugin MIDI channel and the receives audio from specified plugin audio output channel.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:36 am reply with quote
Create 6 midi tracks each with the appropriate midi in from the guitar controller.

Then select the same midi out for those midi tracks which points to the midi track that contains the synth.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:04 am reply with quote
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
Create 6 midi tracks each with the appropriate midi in from the guitar controller.

Then select the same midi out for those midi tracks which points to the midi track that contains the synth.


Seriously? That's the only way? Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:06 am reply with quote
Loki Fuego wrote:

Under "MIDI From" the first selector allows you to choose MIDI source, the second selector allows you to choose MIDI channel.
Under "MIDI To" the first selector allows you to choose destination track, the second selector allows you to choose destination plugin.


I don't have Ableton handy at the moment, is there an "ALL" option under the channel selector(s) or does it always force it to a single channel?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:16 am reply with quote
There's an option to receive MIDI from "All Channels" on each MIDI track.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:17 am reply with quote
thecontrolcentre wrote:
There's an option to receive MIDI from "All Channels" on each MIDI track.


Ok thanks! I'll pass that along.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:53 pm reply with quote
did it work?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:18 pm reply with quote
Did it work?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:13 pm reply with quote
AdmiralQuality wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
There's an option to receive MIDI from "All Channels" on each MIDI track.


Ok thanks! I'll pass that along.


As far as I know, Live deals with MIDI channels in a kinda weird way. The input settings only reflect which ports and channels Live is listening on. If you select a specific port (ie the guitar/MIDI interface) and listen on 'All Channels', Live will merge all of those channels and pass the data to the plug-in on channel 1 only.

The setup for controlling a single instrument from multiple channels is a bit convoluted, here is a screen grab...

As you can see, you will need a total of 6 MIDI Tracks. You put your instrument on the first MIDI Track, and set the input to listen to the MIDI interface port on channel 1. On the second MIDI Track set the input to listen to the MIDI interface on channel 2 and set the MIDI out to the track your instrument is on. If Live see's your instrument as a multi-channle device, the second MIDI output pull down menu will have 16 options each corresponding to a MIDI channel. You will need to set the outputs of MIDI Tracks 2-6 to the corresponding inputs on your instruments.

Then you set each of these six channels to monitor incoming MIDI either by clicking the 'IN' button in the Monitoring section, or leaving it set to 'Auto' and activating the record enable button for each channel.

Hope this makes sense, it's a totally stupid setup but as far as I know it's the only way to transmit multiple channels to a single device in Live.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:21 pm reply with quote
Oh and to tidy things up you can put all six tracks in a group track. Still kind of a pain in the ass.
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