KVR Audio

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:26 pm

I've had my eye on this for a while now, but it seems there aren't many frequent updates..

http://www.wayoutware.com/products.html

Anyone know if the developer is working on this? Is it fairly stable at its current release

*EDIT* See it has 64 bit support with latest update on OSX

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:28 pm

Does it need an update?

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:32 pm

I see its at 1.52 beta, I have demoed this before when it was @ 1.41 and it was a bit buggy. So im just wondering what has been improved and if it's still being actively worked on.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:24 pm

I wrote an email to Jim on Apr 22, 2009 about updates he was 'thinking about' implementing. There's a thread somewhere at KvR about it. Never heard anything more about that since.

HunterKiller · Post by **HunterKiller** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:10 am

Aloysius wrote:Never heard anything more about that since.

Hard to stay afloat in this industry I guess, that's why he's kinda re-focused on iOS apps.

TimewARP2600 has so much freaking potential it's unbelievable. Such a great synth, so well emulated. There haven't been many analog sounds I couldn't do on it. Even when put through a chorus/reverb, it still comes through powerful, like it owns the place.
One synth that has never let me down, that has always exceeded my expectations and left me going: Jesus Christ this thing is alive.

antithesist · Post by **antithesist** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:47 am

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=335987

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=293717

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:06 pm

it needs a 0dff filter to be even close in emulating an arp2600 (especially if referencing to the earlier models with the moog filter clone).
if it gets such upgrade i'd buy it in a shot

ostfront · Post by **ostfront** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:30 pm

olikana wrote:it needs a 0dff filter to be even close in emulating an arp2600 (especially if referencing to the earlier models with the moog filter clone).
if it gets such upgrade i'd buy it in a shot

It's obvious it needs A LOT of updates if it is to reach some relatively complete and functional state but the developer hasn't posted here for almost a year. If it's a one-man show, I wouldn't expect anything other than - probably - a couple of minor updates, if at all. That's too sad

but... what can you do?

TimewARP · Post by **TimewARP** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:40 pm

olikana wrote:it needs a 0dff filter to be even close in emulating an arp2600 (especially if referencing to the earlier models with the moog filter clone).
if it gets such upgrade i'd buy it in a shot

What is a 0dff filter? I am not familiar with that term.

Best regards,

Jim

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:45 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:Does it need an update?

The price definitely needs an update. Seeing that a lot of retailers (like Arturia for instance) have cut their prices, $249 is way out over the top, and if you haven't already got an iLok you need to add $50 to get one of those to.

rexlapin · Post by **rexlapin** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:21 pm

0dff= zero delay feedback filter as used in the u-he Diva synth and synths
from XILS and others. Here is a link to the u-he Diva page:
http://www.u-he.com/cms/diva
There is a link to the manual at the bottom of the page which explains more.
Cheers,
Scott

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:33 pm

olikana wrote:it needs a 0dff filter to be even close in emulating an arp2600 (especially if referencing to the earlier models with the moog filter clone).
if it gets such upgrade i'd buy it in a shot

Wayoutware was bold enough to offer A/B filter comparisons at full resonance on the website. Did you find the Timewarp filter fell short of the hardware 2600?

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:45 am

rexlapin wrote:0dff= zero delay feedback filter as used in the u-he Diva synth and synths
from XILS and others. Here is a link to the u-he Diva page:
http://www.u-he.com/cms/diva
There is a link to the manual at the bottom of the page which explains more.
Cheers,
Scott

One complete page full of information about zero delay feedback filter here :

http://www.xils-lab.com/pages/Zero-Dela ... lters.html

LtZ

TimewARP · Post by **TimewARP** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:00 am

Lotuzia wrote:
rexlapin wrote:0dff= zero delay feedback filter as used in the u-he Diva synth and synths
from XILS and others. Here is a link to the u-he Diva page:
http://www.u-he.com/cms/diva
There is a link to the manual at the bottom of the page which explains more.
Cheers,
Scott
One complete page full of information about zero delay feedback filter here :

http://www.xils-lab.com/pages/Zero-Dela ... lters.html

LtZ

TimewARP 2600 is a little different than most analog emulations. First off, it was written quite a while before the invention of the term 0dff... TimewARP 2600 is different because every controllable parameter on every module including the filter are updated each sample with feedback from every other connected module in the synth all of the time.

TimewARP 2600 also does perform oversampling on it's filter to reduce the feedback delay as well. It is not a perfect emulation, but it does hold up on many tests that most other emulations fail at.

As for updates to TimewARP 2600 was updated last year to support Mac OS X 64-bit with a Cocoa based UI. I have recently had to take external work in order to survive, but I still am putting in time to maintain and update Way Out Ware's products. I am currently working on the 64-bit version of KikAXXE and I hope to have that out soon... I would really like to get back to creating a new version of TimewARP 2600, however, no deep pockets exist here, so that will happen in it's time.

Best,

Jim

HunterKiller · Post by **HunterKiller** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:30 am

Jim, buddy, we support you all the way!

Timewarp2600 updates?