the vst scan worked fine with me ( I have got round about 200 plugins), but my AU scan made Tracktion crash.operandx wrote:Plugin scan seems overly sensitive and borks on plugs that T3 had absolutely no problem with. This really needs sorting, after countless restarts I have yet to complete a full scan of my vst folders. nyone else having this problem?
BR: Plugin scan nightmare
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 17 Sep, 2004 from Good Old Germany
Lost in Music...
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- KVRist
- 169 posts since 4 Mar, 2005
ok, same here, plugin scan crashed at least 7 times and I had to start tracktion always again. the slate plugs do not work except vcc and also none of the soundtoys plugins work (radiator, decapitator,..).
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- Chief Tracktioneer
- 532 posts since 14 Nov, 2002 from London
Thanks guys
Couple of important notes re: the plugin scan..
For the next release I'm going to wrap the scan into a child process, which will make things much nicer. Since there seem to be more problems here than I expected, I'll make this my top priority.
As well as scanning folders, the plugin list on the settings page can have individual plugin DLLs drag-and-dropped onto it now, so you can add specific plugins if you need to.
It'd be really helpful if before posting that a plugin is crashing, you could try dragging just that plugin into the list, and see if it loads on its own. Very often a perfectly innocent plugin might crash because of something stupid that the previously-scanned one did, so you may be blaming the wrong one!
Couple of important notes re: the plugin scan..
For the next release I'm going to wrap the scan into a child process, which will make things much nicer. Since there seem to be more problems here than I expected, I'll make this my top priority.
As well as scanning folders, the plugin list on the settings page can have individual plugin DLLs drag-and-dropped onto it now, so you can add specific plugins if you need to.
It'd be really helpful if before posting that a plugin is crashing, you could try dragging just that plugin into the list, and see if it loads on its own. Very often a perfectly innocent plugin might crash because of something stupid that the previously-scanned one did, so you may be blaming the wrong one!
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- Chief Tracktioneer
- 532 posts since 14 Nov, 2002 from London
..oh, and if any of you are JUCE programmers, T4 now shares the usual JUCE plugin wrapper code. So if you're interested in exploring problems with a particular plugin, you can load it up for debugging in the JUCE plugin host and see what's actually going on.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 584 posts since 30 Apr, 2003 from London, UK
jules wrote:Thanks guys
Couple of important notes re: the plugin scan..
For the next release I'm going to wrap the scan into a child process, which will make things much nicer. Since there seem to be more problems here than I expected, I'll make this my top priority.
As well as scanning folders, the plugin list on the settings page can have individual plugin DLLs drag-and-dropped onto it now, so you can add specific plugins if you need to.
It'd be really helpful if before posting that a plugin is crashing, you could try dragging just that plugin into the list, and see if it loads on its own. Very often a perfectly innocent plugin might crash because of something stupid that the previously-scanned one did, so you may be blaming the wrong one!
Good to know Jules, really have been tearing my hair out with this.
Great to see you back defibrillating Tracktion back to life
'He craved immortality so much, he was prepared to die for it.'
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- KVRian
- 1153 posts since 11 Aug, 2004 from Breuillet, France
Hello Jules
Well, about the plug-in loader, T4 has been able to see all my plug-ins at the first try. But the alertwindow was unable to display what was happening in real time. The host looks like it freezes, with its status at 0% during all the process, and then it was finished and ok
I remember I had the same problem with the JUCE demo host...
Well, about the plug-in loader, T4 has been able to see all my plug-ins at the first try. But the alertwindow was unable to display what was happening in real time. The host looks like it freezes, with its status at 0% during all the process, and then it was finished and ok
I remember I had the same problem with the JUCE demo host...
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- KVRian
- 655 posts since 25 Dec, 2009
Hi Jules,
This doesn't appear to work for me on Windows 8 x64, running the v4 demo. Is it a Mac OS or 32-bit function only?
Thanks in advance,
G
This doesn't appear to work for me on Windows 8 x64, running the v4 demo. Is it a Mac OS or 32-bit function only?
Thanks in advance,
G
jules wrote:Thanks guys
As well as scanning folders, the plugin list on the settings page can have individual plugin DLLs drag-and-dropped onto it now, so you can add specific plugins if you need to.
- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Confirmed as working in Win7 64bit. But, it's not visually apparent. The drag part works, but the drop appears to not occur depending on the sort order of the plugins.Photo_G wrote:Hi Jules,
This doesn't appear to work for me on Windows 8 x64, running the v4 demo. Is it a Mac OS or 32-bit function only?
Thanks in advance,
G
jules wrote:Thanks guys
As well as scanning folders, the plugin list on the settings page can have individual plugin DLLs drag-and-dropped onto it now, so you can add specific plugins if you need to.
Photo_G, can you try again, but before you do, confirm that the VST sort order is set to something simple, like alphabetical? Then drag 'n drop something either with the letter A or Z, so you can easily see if it's added.
There's no festival of lights and sounds as one would expect when a VST has been accepted into the Tracktion Hall of Filters. A little visual or audio success signal might help.
The fail message is obvious. T still crashes on 'evil' plugins with this DnD method that it crashed on during the infinite scan-in-one process.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Looks like the plugin scan to update plugins is scanning them all instead of just the new ones. Plus the scan on startup isn't working. It didn't pick up on Diversion when I installed it, which led to me running the scan update which scanned everything.
- KVRAF
- 3462 posts since 17 Sep, 2006 from Fredericksburg, VA USA
Ran through all my Togu stuff no problemo - what op sys?Mauvehead wrote:Chokes on Waves AU plugs (a mixed bag of Waveshell 7 and 8 ), anything Togu AU...
I'm on an '11 MBP running OSX 10.7.5...these plugs work fine elsewhere.
D Scarlatti, Dell XPS8700 i7/8gb mem/1tb hd/Steiny UR22/Presonus ER5s/Nektar LX61 kbd ctrlr/Win 10 Pro/S1 4.6/ my music here: https://www.magix.info/us/profile/my-profile/media/
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- KVRian
- 1120 posts since 13 Sep, 2005
Only Absynth4, UVIWorkstationVST and z3ta+ have been deactivated in T4 here.
I compiled the debug build of Plugin Host and here are the results (I am a super-duper-weeny amateur hacker so debugging is beyond me) if they are helpful...
With z3ta+
*** edit: inspired by Integatron's report, I tested with Reaper and although it scanned okay, it crashes Reaper when inserting into a track. ***
With Absynth4
(Call stack location is in Absynth4.dll)
*** edit: again, it turns out that this has failed the scan in Reaper and is unavailable. ***
With UVIWorkstationVST (v2.0.3).... I get a "poof" crash. Every time.
*** edit: this IS working in Reaper. ***
I am attempting to add the plugins via DnD. Using latest stable build of Juce, downloaded tonight.
Win 7 x64
I compiled the debug build of Plugin Host and here are the results (I am a super-duper-weeny amateur hacker so debugging is beyond me) if they are helpful...
With z3ta+
Code: Select all
Creating VST instance: z3ta+
Critical error detected c0000374
Windows has triggered a breakpoint in Plugin Host.exe.
This may be due to a corruption of the heap, which indicates a bug in Plugin Host.exe or any of the DLLs it has loaded.
This may also be due to the user pressing F12 while Plugin Host.exe has focus.
The output window may have more diagnostic information.
First-chance exception at 0x7710e653 in Plugin Host.exe: 0xC0000374: A heap has been corrupted.
Unhandled exception at 0x7710e653 in Plugin Host.exe: 0xC0000374: A heap has been corrupted.
With Absynth4
Code: Select all
First-chance exception at 0x11ed68d7 in Plugin Host.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation writing location 0x54831acb.
Unhandled exception at 0x11ed68d7 in Plugin Host.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation writing location 0x54831acb.
*** edit: again, it turns out that this has failed the scan in Reaper and is unavailable. ***
With UVIWorkstationVST (v2.0.3).... I get a "poof" crash. Every time.
*** edit: this IS working in Reaper. ***
I am attempting to add the plugins via DnD. Using latest stable build of Juce, downloaded tonight.
Win 7 x64
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- KVRAF
- 3462 posts since 17 Sep, 2006 from Fredericksburg, VA USA
For reference only... z3ta+ is running OK on win xp sp3.
D Scarlatti, Dell XPS8700 i7/8gb mem/1tb hd/Steiny UR22/Presonus ER5s/Nektar LX61 kbd ctrlr/Win 10 Pro/S1 4.6/ my music here: https://www.magix.info/us/profile/my-profile/media/
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- KVRian
- 655 posts since 25 Dec, 2009
@mandolarian: Thanks for the tips, but when I try to drag a plugin to the list in Windows 8 x64, I get the circle-with-a-slash indicating that I can't drag (or drop) here.
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
I believe eventually, if Jules codes an "external" plugin scanner that spits out errors and simply sends a message to the main program that tells it to disable the plugin and continue on with the scan, all of these problems could be solved.
Then we could send the errors and we could progress from there.
In my humble opinion.
RonC
Then we could send the errors and we could progress from there.
In my humble opinion.
RonC