Spire 1.1.0 out + Black Friday Sale!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4786 posts since 2 Sep, 2005 from city of lights (nl)
Just got the newsletter about the Black Friday Sale (30% off till Dec 1st) and then I see there's a brand new website and the version 1.1.0 update is out!
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- KVRist
- 460 posts since 5 Jan, 2004 from In the now
Awesome!
"If less is more, just think of how much more, more will be".
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- KVRAF
- 5824 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
Oh this is great!
This version is not replacing the existing version. It seems there are some changes which results in a different sound or that existing patches are not compatible with 1.1.0?
This version is not replacing the existing version. It seems there are some changes which results in a different sound or that existing patches are not compatible with 1.1.0?
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- KVRAF
- 5694 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
The plugin identifier is "Spire-1.1", what the f**k, i think better to wait than start using it in a project now. They need to change this. What happens, each update they change the ID!!!!????
Reveal Sound please change the ID back to "Spire".
Very silly.
Reveal Sound please change the ID back to "Spire".
Very silly.
Last edited by sqigls on Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 360 posts since 12 Mar, 2005
Yeah, version numbers in dll names and identifiers is a bit stupid.
Even if you manage to load it into an old project the chance exist the sounds is garbage. I notice a strange behavior in plugin state recall
(Reaper default preset option for example)
Also when using "Restore preset" in the menu the sound turns into garbage.
I love the scaling tho, its awesome on a 4k screen.
Even if you manage to load it into an old project the chance exist the sounds is garbage. I notice a strange behavior in plugin state recall
(Reaper default preset option for example)
Also when using "Restore preset" in the menu the sound turns into garbage.
I love the scaling tho, its awesome on a 4k screen.
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- KVRAF
- 3341 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
ugh just realized this; it's not replacing the previous plugin, so...need BOTH. the original to read the sounds and changes made using spire in a song, and the new one for...new songs? i guess the question is: why is this NOT replacing the original???
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
It was posted here elsewhere that the sound is slightly different now, probably due to the complete rewrite of the DSP engine. In the beta, several elements of the synth weren't yet implemented and working, so i guess it's safe to say that the new version does differ quite a bit, thus making it necessary to have both versions for backward track compatibility.fisherKing wrote:ugh just realized this; it's not replacing the previous plugin, so...need BOTH. the original to read the sounds and changes made using spire in a song, and the new one for...new songs? i guess the question is: why is this NOT replacing the original???
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- KVRAF
- 3341 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
tho, i'd like to have been presented with the option to move exclusively to 1.1, so that it would open my presets in any song. i can deal with the sound differences, just hate having to keep the old plugin around (but that's just me...)... 
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Fair enough. I was surprised too that it doesn't replace the old version, and when i installed it, i even installed it in the same folder, and then they were happily aside of each other, and even shared the presets, and when i uninstalled the old version, most of the presets were gone too. 
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- KVRAF
- 3341 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
and it's not working right here (logic x 10.2); a lot of notes i play from my keyboard are not sounding. and when i went to try bank 6 in the older spire, logic crashed.
that i can understand (if bank 6 requires 1.1). but again, am playing notes that don't sound. anyone else??
EDIT: it SEEMS that everything plays from a recorded sequence, but not when i play my keyboard 'live'...ugh.
EDIT2: and 1.1 just crashed logic (as i was looking thru the presets)... some good sounds in Bank 6, but i can only hear them by playing recorded sequences. so far... not good.
going back to the earlier plugin for now. hope these things get sorted soon!
that i can understand (if bank 6 requires 1.1). but again, am playing notes that don't sound. anyone else??
EDIT: it SEEMS that everything plays from a recorded sequence, but not when i play my keyboard 'live'...ugh.
EDIT2: and 1.1 just crashed logic (as i was looking thru the presets)... some good sounds in Bank 6, but i can only hear them by playing recorded sequences. so far... not good.
going back to the earlier plugin for now. hope these things get sorted soon!
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- KVRist
- 282 posts since 16 Mar, 2005
Bank 6 makes uses of the new "Mod" functions so it surely won't work with Spire v1.0xx, but that's no reason for v1.1 to not play all notes!fisherKing wrote:and it's not working right here (logic x 10.2); a lot of notes i play from my keyboard are not sounding. and when i went to try bank 6 in the older spire, logic crashed.
that i can understand (if bank 6 requires 1.1). but again, am playing notes that don't sound. anyone else??
I also noticed that v1.1 was less reliable than v1.0.20 (crashed Live v9.5 a couple of times randomly with CPU going up to +2000% one time
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- KVRAF
- 35404 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Yes it's daft, the slightly changed sound is a poor excuse given that other developers have managed to implement legacy modes inside the same plugin - assuming the difference is that radical anyway and not just one that people can live with. It just seems a lazy and short sighted approach.sqigls wrote:The plugin identifier is "Spire-1.1", what the f**k, i think better to wait than start using it in a project now. They need to change this. What happens, each update they change the ID!!!!????
Reveal Sound please change the ID back to "Spire".
Very silly.
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- KVRist
- 67 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
how about renaming the plugin to Spire only and it will work? (but before back 1.0.20 plugin)
i couldnt even open it in reaper, the brigde just crashed, i mean 5.1 x64 version.
tried both bit versions.
in ableton 9.5 all went good, the sound was the same, i tried a number of presets, no hanging notes or other stuff, plugin was stable. cpu usage seems to be reduced too.
my guess is they wanted to have this out before black friday to give discount to have an extra potential for people to buy it. (i can understand it)
i couldnt even open it in reaper, the brigde just crashed, i mean 5.1 x64 version.
tried both bit versions.
in ableton 9.5 all went good, the sound was the same, i tried a number of presets, no hanging notes or other stuff, plugin was stable. cpu usage seems to be reduced too.
my guess is they wanted to have this out before black friday to give discount to have an extra potential for people to buy it. (i can understand it)
Lenovo IdeaPad U330p Win8.1 Pro x64 | Ableton Suite 9.1.5 x32 | Some Synths
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- KVRAF
- 3341 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
i thought about the renaming thing, but...first, am having a bad time with the new one, and scared that old files won't open correctly if i do that, and...not worth finding out. anyway, still need to get the new one working right...
