AMD CPU

[djmino02]

I've noticed a lot of plugin developers recommend i5 or i7 processors and it makes me wonder if Intel performs better than AMD. Thanks

[Pictus]

Some works better with Intel and some with AMD.
For plug-ins(Melda/2Caudio/Acustica Audio) that support AVX-512, AMD should be faster.

Overall performance DAWBench https://dawbench.com/


At default settings the Intel produces too much heat, more heat = more noise.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/inte ... 0k/23.html

The Intel Problem: CPU Efficiency & Power Consumption
https://youtu.be/9WRF2bDl-u8
You can tweak the Intel
https://youtu.be/EilwjiqCiSw

Intel Core i9-14900K Raptor Lake Tested at Power Limits Down to 35 W
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/inte ... n-to-35-w/

Intel Core i9-13900K vs. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X at 125W and 65W
https://www.club386.com/intel-core-i9-1 ... w-and-65w/


For the AMD you can enable ECO mode.
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... ount=21518

https://youtu.be/W6aKQ-eBFk0
ECO Mode guide
https://youtu.be/oubGmP4nLbQ
The X3D version is already in some Eco Mode
https://youtu.be/9gCzXdLmjPY
The AMD versions without the X are in Eco Mode 65W
https://youtu.be/VtVowYykviM

[djmino02]

Thanks! That's a lot to digest.

Do you think the AMD 5700G would be good for music production?

Thanks

[Pictus]

You are welcome.
Works, but it is just a bit more than the 5600X you see in the DAWBench chart.
I would try to get something better like Intel Core i5-13500/Intel Core i5-13600K.

[ideny]

A concern for me is how the DAW or Plugins using the P vs E cores. If a Plugin from a Bus or Master is using an E core it slows down the processing.

The Intel are perfect Render and Multithread CPU.
But what is if plugins are using the E cores? Could this not slow down the full chain to this e core speed.?

Run a AMD 7700x , since release and really happy with the power. A 7600 should have also a good power.

The Intel are good, and multi core speed are cheaper. Whilst the 3D Cache ist not underestimated. There are Rumors for a 5600X3D for Feb next Years.

I was using Intel CPUs fir years, fir audio processing. intel Haswell Xeon 4 Core, the 8086 wth 5 Ghz, moved to.AMD.

[Pictus]

Independent if the CPU is better or worse, cheap or expensive, I prefer the AMD.
The 5600X3D is a failed 5800X3D and no onboard GPU.
By looking at the DAWBench chart, we see no problem with the E-Cores.
From the guy who made the DAWBench test.
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... count=1292
"Also, why would you remove the E-Cores to the overall processing overhead, as once the P-Cores are loaded the E-Core supply additional processing.

Anyone who has disabled E-Cores completely in a DAW environment will quickly realise how much processing they have lost.

I have already made the point that "E-Cores" although not as powerful as P Cores, are more like Mid Cores, especially compared to Apples Small/E-Cores. They have processing power of around an Intel 8-9th Gen, and with the large number and in combination can easily keep with AMD's more traditional all full cores. Evidenced in Benchmarks and Real World DAW Application."

[djmino02]

So I got a I-7 5500 (kina outdated) and I'm wondering how much better a 5700G AMD would be.

My i5 5500 works all right for most older plugins but like a lot of the newer ones I have to be really strategic about it.

I'm not like in super producer mode just basically a hobbyist.

I bought a Mac Mini M1 and I didn't really care for it. Just not a Mac person I guess.

Would a 5700g AMD be better than a Mac M1 Mini? But then there's the whole hard drive issue w/ the M1 where the hard drive you can't update that I know of.

I did kind of like logic though it has some cool features I was going to try to do a Dante network with my current PC and the M1 to run plugins I couldn't run on the PC but I couldn't get it to work at the time when it first came out.

I don't know I just know I need to get a better computer setup probably this year.

[T-CM11]

So I got a I-7 5500 ...

Never heard of it.

My i5 5500 ...

Never heard of it either.

Would a 5700g AMD be better than a Mac M1 Mini?

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=4104
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... 0G&id=4323

[djmino02]

I7 5500U technically. Best laptop laptop I ever had though. I was hoping I never have to buy a new one

[Jim Roseberry]

For the vast majority of DAW applications/scenarios/plugins, the 13900k is slightly faster than the 7950x (and slightly less expensive).
The 14900k is basically a 13900ks (shouldn't have been called 14th Gen)
I've tested 14900k, 13900k, and 7950x side-by-side.
Cinebench R23 Multi-Core is also a quick/easy way to fairly accurately gauge/compare performance.

The claims in the above video/s are a bit "click bate".
We have many professional clients running the 13900k and 14900k.
Heat with the 13900k and 14900k is not a problem... but, you need robust large AIO cooling.
The 7950x also needs robust large AIO cooling.
A D15 isn't going to suffice under load.
You see videos of folks using an air-cooler for the Storm Peak 7980x.
Under load, there's no way an air-cooler is going to dissipate 350w TDP.
Common sense...

The summarize, there's nothing wrong with the AMD 7xxx series CPUs.
Low latency audio performance (unlike the original Threadripper) is on-par with Intel.
Both can run the likes of ToneX clean at 96k using an ASIO buffer size as low as 24-samples.
AMD is just slightly more expensive... for slightly lower performance.
In real-world use, you wouldn't notice an appreciable difference between the 14900k, 13900k, and 7950x.

[djmino02]

Cool! I've got my eye on a hp PC that's got a i7-13700. Seems like a decent price too.

[cnt]

3950x here. Totally silent even in full usage. Air Cooler like Noctua D14 works 100% fine.
Most silent and cool computer Ive had since late 90s..