Windows 11: better audio performance?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 15187 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I read that 11 has better audio performance than 10. I went with 10 when I built this machine because at the time, UAD didn’t support it, but now it does. I actually tried to upgrade, but it failed. No idea why. I’m wondering if it’s worth troubleshooting, or should I just punt and stick to 10.
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Try to do an "inplace upgrade". Download the Media Creation Tool from here: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2156295 , start it, and write the image to a USB stick, and when it's finished, click the setup.exe on the stick.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:04 pm I actually tried to upgrade, but it failed. No idea why.
Make sure you choose the correct options during the upgrade process, like, keeping your apps and personal files, otherwise the upgrade will delete your apps and personal files on your computer.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 15187 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Yeah, that was my next step, but I wanted to make sure that there was a benefit to having 11 first. I’m having trouble finding consistent advice on the topic. Do you think it’s worth doing?chk071 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:07 pmTry to do an "inplace upgrade". Download the Media Creation Tool from here: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2156295 , start it, and write the image to a USB stick, and when it's finished, click the setup.exe on the stick.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:04 pm I actually tried to upgrade, but it failed. No idea why.
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- KVRAF
- 7170 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
I didn't have any problems moving from Win10 to Win11 (apart from yet another UI/UX change for no benefit to the end user, which is par for the course). No noticeable impact on performance but your OS life expectancy is extended somewhat.
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I can't really tell as this computer came with Windows 11. I can't imagine that it has significantly better audio performance, or performance in general though. If anything then in the low one-digit percent range.
What you get it more future proof (Windows 10 is end of life in mid 2025), and better operation (alone the new UI for activating or switching your wireless connection, bluetooth and audio is worth it IMO).
I would do it, but, your call, of course. I recently also upgraded my laptop to Windows 11, although it has a non supported CPU (i5 7th gen), and, it works flawless. If your hardware is supported by Windows 11, I would say that it's pretty much a no-brainer.
What you get it more future proof (Windows 10 is end of life in mid 2025), and better operation (alone the new UI for activating or switching your wireless connection, bluetooth and audio is worth it IMO).
I would do it, but, your call, of course. I recently also upgraded my laptop to Windows 11, although it has a non supported CPU (i5 7th gen), and, it works flawless. If your hardware is supported by Windows 11, I would say that it's pretty much a no-brainer.
- KVRAF
- 10762 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I had 10 then bought a new laptop with 11 and I have to say there was a noticeable notch up in sound quality. Same driver, different manufacturer, but I don't think that matters because I use headphones mainly. I'll also tell you that means everything has to be spot on. Little mistakes you could leave and be smeared over now glares.
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 6 Dec, 2004 from LYON (FRANCE)
If the sound quality of a setup varies according to the OS version, this is very bad news, meaning that some (old) OS are crappy. It does not look professional, does it?
I hope that drivers quality increases according to the OS versions and that it is the final explanation.
I hope that drivers quality increases according to the OS versions and that it is the final explanation.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 15187 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I’ve given up. Not even updating from a USB image works. Thanks everyone, but I no longer care.
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Do you use a third party security software? If so, then note that it can cause problems like that.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:47 pm I’ve given up. Not even updating from a USB image works. Thanks everyone, but I no longer care.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 15187 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
No, just Windows Defender. I think I’m going to try and run a disc repair program. Any recommendation?chk071 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:06 amDo you use a third party security software? If so, then note that it can cause problems like that.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:47 pm I’ve given up. Not even updating from a USB image works. Thanks everyone, but I no longer care.
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- KVRAF
- 7170 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
- KVRAF
- 1844 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
I dunno about better audio performance of OS, but new RME > 20 years old pci m-audio for sure
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- KVRian
- 571 posts since 13 Jul, 2006
I've heard that Windows 11 might get MIDI 2.0 this year. With this they'll completely replace the old MIDI stack and a few of the new improvements will also apply to MIDI 1, like better performance and multi-client streams.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windows-music-dev/
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windows-music-dev/
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Can you explain to a layman (in layman terms) what that means exactly? I was under the impression that MIDI 2.0 is handled by the respective audio software and hardware. Does the implementation have to do with class compliancy, and plug & play, so you don't need special drivers for your hardware or something?Fannon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:30 am I've heard that Windows 11 might get MIDI 2.0 this year. With this they'll completely replace the old MIDI stack and a few of the new improvements will also apply to MIDI 1, like better performance and multi-client streams.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windows-music-dev/
- KVRAF
- 10762 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
My AMD tower would NOT at all take the Windows 10 upgrade. Well, it did but then ALL the USB things attached went berserk.The Intel laptop just updated without a hiccup though. The tower finally just got rolled back and had to stay. And I tried every version of the 10 upgrade.