Loop Engine 2

I've already left a bad review for Loop Engine 1 as well as Chords, Chords Pro + Notes, and all for similar reasons. One main reason, really.

That being said, there was no way I would buy Loop Engine 2, based on my earlier experiences (timing issues with simple loops in all DAWs, crashing on MIDI export) with WA's other Loop Engine-based products. However today I was given a copy of Loop Engine 2 in a larger Pluginboutique bundle, so I figured why not? They couldnt POSSIBLY have left the DAW loop timing issue in ANOTHER version of this same plugin, could they have??

Yes. Yes they could, and yes they did. Is Loop Engine 2 just Loop Engine 1 with a new version number?? I cant even see any differences between version 1 and version 2. When I try to export MIDI from this, it freezes for a second and does nothing(Bitwig), just like all the other versions. In Cubase 13, this does export MIDI after a 5-6 second freeze.

The big issue -- in Cubase 12, 13 & Bitwig 5.1.9, Loop Engine 2 doubles up the first note in any loop(only Cubase), AND cuts the final note in the loop when the arranger loops around. (Bitwig AND Cubase).

Try it out - try any version of Loop Engine, from version 1 to Chords Pro + Notes to Loop Engine 2, and see what you can see.

Ive emailed the vendor about this. They act confused, they ask for videos of the issue, but they do not fix the issue. The only way to avoid this is to turn off cycle/loop mode in your DAW, which isnt something I should need to do to accommodate a looping plugin.

Its my fault for actually installing this, and thinking the issue would be gone. If its been there this long, they have no intention of fixing it.

This tool, like the other similar tool from WA "Chords Pro", has a DAW playback issue. I reported the issue to WA when I got a free copy of Chords Pro, and they denied the issue and asked me to "record video of the issue happening" but made it very difficult to upload a video so I gave up because the tool was mediocre and free anyway.

So I heard that Loop Engine was supposed to have the best aspects of Chords Pro, and a more stripped down Instacomposer sort of thing, so I decided to try it on a sale. Loop Engine has the IDENTICAL issue that Chords Pro has:

Load Loop Engine as a plugin in your DAW - any DAW. Connect it to a polyphonic synth. Load any content in Loop Engine, or build your own. Press play on your DAW while the DAW transport is in loop mode. Loop Engine plays your notes as intended, until.... every time the currently defined loop ends and repeats. Whether it's a loop length of 1, 2, 4, 8, etc, Loop Engine always goes silent for a portion of the first note of the loop. It sounds like when you set "note length" to around 50% in an arpeggiator.

As long as your transport never loops, Loop Engine (and Chords Pro) continue playing chords and notes as intended, but as soon as you put your DAW transport in loop mode, the issue begins. On top of the loop playback issue, drag and drop export from Loop Engine does NOT work and partially freezes any DAW (Cubase 12, Bitwig 5) I've tried it in.

WA seems to ignore these issues, and the only reason I still give this 2 stars is that it works when not in looped playback mode.

If the dev doesnt solve this (and the issue with Chords Pro) soon, Ill come back and drop this to 1 star. How hard is it to get your "Loop Engine" to loop and export audio properly? Edit: its been months, and instead of a fix, the dev released a version 2 of Loop Engine.* Im not sure if I'll ever buy anything from WA again after this.