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Author Topic: is there a free alternative to beat creator??
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:14 am reply with quote
hi
i was wondering if there is a free alternative to zero-g beat creator for windows??


thanx in advance
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:06 am reply with quote
i just found wavesurgeon,havent had time to play with it yet,but it should basicly do the same as beat creator,can anyone confirm this??
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:35 am reply with quote
Let me know how you get on with this. I like beatcreator but it seems that their website has been down for some time now. Shame cos with a few updates it could be an essential program.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:54 am reply with quote
i dont have time to try wavesurgeon out untill tommorrow.

can anyone knowing it,confirm if it will let me do the same as zero-g beat creator does??

(im thinking about,using it to re-arrange beats in)is that possible??
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:17 pm reply with quote
I haven't tried Wave Surgeon, but I'm having a hard time finding even a payware replacement for (Zero-X) Beat Creator. I spent a week looking for alternatives. The competition is under-spec'd and overpriced, I think.
(Peter, where are you?)
Wave Surgeon doesn't have enough features for me, but I'll be watching this thread. Hopefully, they'll be some good suggestions...
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:35 pm reply with quote
S-N-S wrote:
i dont have time to try wavesurgeon out untill tommorrow.

can anyone knowing it,confirm if it will let me do the same as zero-g beat creator does??

(im thinking about,using it to re-arrange beats in)is that possible??


Not free, but cheap ($20) from Bram Bos. Quick and fun way to rearrange beats (even has presets for different arrangements) is TU2. Check it out: http://www.brambos.com/tu2.html demo available.


Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:25 am reply with quote
just had a play with wavesurgeon,made some good samples,but unfortunatly it is only a evaluation version,so the save function will disappaer after a while.


will try out Tu2

EDIT:have quickly tried TU2 and its quite nice,but not exactly what im looking for

i need a program that lets you rearrange beats,quickly(like wavesurgeon)

isent there something out there as a freebie

if not I CALL ALL DEVELOPERS
please male this
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:47 pm reply with quote
honestly though, what happened to beatcreator?

i know it got linked up with fruityloops in some way but theres very little info about it anywhere online. if only it were updated with full rx2 compatibility it would surely be a recycle-beater.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:12 am reply with quote
mutantdog wrote:
honestly though, what happened to beatcreator?

i know it got linked up with fruityloops in some way but theres very little info about it anywhere online. if only it were updated with full rx2 compatibility it would surely be a recycle-beater.


+ 1 Billion.

Version 3.0 needs only Rex2 export to be my ultimate groove mangler.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:30 am reply with quote
i just found a old cd-rom from computer magazine,that has a special version of basement arts reflex beatslicing program on it.

im gonna try to install that today,and see if it does what i want
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:48 am reply with quote
Dont mind my chime in.

Man this is a sad situation. Looks like the ZeroX has gone belly up and with it all of its innovative product. TBH the only even slightly close program to BC is BeatQuantizer which for obvious reasons is also gone. Out side of that I think the closest your going to get (with some of the same technology) would actually be FL. Other than that you'd have to use bits and peices of different aps to acheive the same ends.

Namely (and not free):

LiveSlice
Recycle
Adobe Audition
and again FL

A combination of these will give you pretty much the same functionality of BC3. Good luck with the workflow though.

Wish they'd release the source code so perhaps someone could develop VST versions (wishing..)
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:57 am reply with quote
[quote="Lotuzia"]
mutantdog wrote:

Version 3.0 needs only Rex2 export to be my ultimate groove mangler.

LtZ


If this is your opinion - then go and get it (you can still buy it through image line) if you haven't done so far. Since Rex2 support will never come from non Propellerheads-software. It is a proprietary format and they only allow import, not export. But since ZGR also supported by a lot of software (FL Studio, NI products etc.) and you always can acidize you wavs with BC, I actually do not see why Rex2 export is essential (although I agree that it would be a nice thing to have).

cheers, akj
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:06 am reply with quote
its not availeble through image-line anymore Help


so guess the only thing close to that is recycle??
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:22 am reply with quote
What about Edison and Slic-ex? It seems to me they took on some of the Beatcreator functionality.

Edison and Reaper is a nice combo as Edison slices the beats and you can drag/drop straight into Reaper with cue markers intact ready to be chopped up etc.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:33 am reply with quote
Long time ago (in 1998) there was a free program called Amen. I wasn't spoiled then and did find it great. Don't know if it's of any use now.

Amen can only rearrange beats. You can still download it here...
http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Windows/zs -1-amen.html

Kind regardz,

Jos

BTW I own Beat Creator and ReCycle. I only use ReCycle now and then (if I need a rex2 file). Cubase 5 can do the same trick now with Groove Agent One.
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