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i can't see how for MAC users at least, informing us and potential customers whether a 64 bit version is planned *at all*, is harmful or stressful in any way.
Example.." there is no eta, don't ask, but a 64 bit version for mac is being worked upon". Or, "at this time, we have no plans to support mac 64 bit in the forseeable future." so simple and easy, and would take maybe 5 seconds, or 2 seconds if he copies and pastes my text Windows users really don't need to know anything. They have a mature stable product that works in all OS'es, in all hosts, and all BITS. Is what i am saying unreasonable in any way? Is there any realistic reason why Lennard would find what i am wanting to know about the mac version unfair? I want to re buy sylenth so badly it's driving me crazy. I mean my finger is itching on the pay button every single day and then i back out! Maybe lennard doesn't want me as a customer as i have had some nasty words with him in the past. the thing is, that was ttoz when he did not know how to control his temper. I still believe 100% in the final reasoning of what i said, just *not* the way i said it to him. But forget me, what about others on MAC that are in the same position, that are scared when the inevitable everything is 64 bits they can no longer user their beloved sylenth and may have every project relying on it? I can't see any problem for windows users for the next 5 years if at all, honestly. Again if i am being unfair or unreasonable, i am happy to have that pointed out. ---- Please call me Theo. |
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Hm, i actualy dont really see the reason to the urge of the 64bit version on mac, since the bridges on mac work rock solid and sylenth doesn't consume too much cpu anyway..so why not just use the 32 bit version if you would like to have the synth?
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Suloo wrote: Hm, i actualy dont really see the reason to the urge of the 64bit version on mac, since the bridges on mac work rock solid and sylenth doesn't consume too much cpu anyway..so why not just use the 32 bit version if you would like to have the synth?
don't mean it offendend cheers i don't know about you, but in logic, the bridge crashes regularly. i mean, it's not life&death (you can just reopen the bridge); S1 is the ONLY plugin i use now that HASN'T been updated to 64bit (i.e. zebra, punch, melodyne, massive...evem the 'retired' kore player was surprisingly updated...) |
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As for me, when I try to use Sylenth1 in Logic Pro (64 bit mode), it makes an awful sound. I am using the demo model, but i would buy it instantly if it was updated. Since it's been 3 1/2 years since the last update, I doubt it ever happens. It's a shame, because I haven't found anything else that sounds as big and warm as Sylenth. |
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John Dev wrote: As for me, when I try to use Sylenth1 in Logic Pro (64 bit mode), it makes an awful sound. I am using the demo model, but i would buy it instantly if it was updated. Since it's been 3 1/2 years since the last update, I doubt it ever happens. It's a shame, because I haven't found anything else that sounds as big and warm as Sylenth.
doesn't it open the 32bit bridge first? that's how it's supposed to work in logic (64bit). works fine for me, my main issue is the bridge crashing regularly... i can't understand why we hear nothing about an update, but have given up. i love the synth & will continue to use it (& hope that logic X will support 32bit plugins...) |
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Suloo wrote: Hm, i actualy dont really see the reason to the urge of the 64bit version on mac
The most important reason for switching to 64-bit is that the plugins can address all available RAM. I have been using Logic in 32-bit and regularly maxed out my Mac Pro. After switching to 64-bit (with nearly all plugins being 64-bit, too) I can load a multitude of effects and samples MORE before going into occasional overload messages. That - for me - is reason enough. Currently, I am in the position of spending some money on a new soft-synth and really hoped for Sylenth to finally go 64-bit and support Lion on the Mac side. But since there is no info available anywhere and I surely don't revert back to using 32-bit stuff, it won't be Sylenth then. |
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He sells a plugin and is therefore running a business. To say he has no obligation to paying customers is poppycock. Posting a site update would take about 10 minutes. Setting up an auto response template for all emails....again...hardly tough work.
I don't think anyone is asking him to work around the clock at responding to all communication, but the guy runs a business. If he wants to hide, he should probably shut up shop. I'm sure he'd start communicating and drumming up business if people stopped buying. It's not the customer's responsibility to speculate on whether he is dealing with personal issues or what his motives might be. If he's running a business, he has some basic obligations to paying customers. Posting an annoyed response to all the rumour and speculation in that other thread is just last resort communication to protect the S1 brand. If he has the time to post here on very rare occasions to protect his business, he certainly has enough time to update his website. ---- Tracktion is BAAAAAACK !!! |
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audiobot202 wrote: He sells a plugin and is therefore running a business. To say he has no obligation to paying customers is poppycock. Posting a site update would take about 10 minutes. Setting up an auto response template for all emails....again...hardly tough work.
I don't think anyone is asking him to work around the clock at responding to all communication, but the guy runs a business. If he wants to hide, he should probably shut up shop. I'm sure he'd start communicating and drumming up business if people stopped buying. It's not the customer's responsibility to speculate on whether he is dealing with personal issues or what his motives might be. If he's running a business, he has some basic obligations to paying customers. Posting an annoyed response to all the rumour and speculation in that other thread is just last resort communication to protect the S1 brand. If he has the time to post here on very rare occasions to protect his business, he certainly has enough time to update his website. Though I can understand that, I am glad S1 is still available to those who want it. ---- Aiynzahev-sounds Resonance Sound Sound Designer - Soundsets for Massive, LuSH, DIVA, DUNE, Sylenth and others |
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I thought S1 was abandoned , i'd posted a support request and nothing came back, but then Lennard did get back to me and apologised, my request must have slipped through the net, so he is there if you need help.
The problem wasn't deal breaking, and wasnt able to be recreated, which makes me think it's a problem my end. I couldn't drop Sylenth even if I wanted to, it's got a distinct sound of it's own and i'd not want to part with it. I'd welcome any updates, but until it becomes unusable, (if that happens) it's going no where. I agree if the plug-in once worked and doesnt anymore due to whatever reason, it needs to be fixed, but if it never worked on a certain platform, or was never developed for that platform, patience is the only answer. Got a feeling Sylenth will be in my work for a long time to come. ---- Forward ever, Backward never |
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Its threads like this that confirm my rationale for staying with windows. I feel for you guys maybe a workaround is in order. Does mac bridge like jvridge in pc, so use logic in 32 bit and bridgebyou ram hungry plugins in 64 bit. As for the business aspect I dont recall ld stating mac 64 ever being in the pipeline and with the continuous upgrades with Osx versions I dont think i would want to support it either. but i am an unelightened windows user. on my wifes macbook after 30 mins i bootcamped windows. ---- Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend air 'Need talent & opportunity' |
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MFXxx wrote: Its threads like this that confirm my rationale for staying with windows. I feel for you guys maybe a workaround is in order. Does mac bridge like jvridge in pc, so use logic in 32 bit and bridgebyou ram hungry plugins in 64 bit. As for the business aspect I dont recall ld stating mac 64 ever being in the pipeline and with the continuous upgrades with Osx versions I dont think i would want to support it either. but i am an unelightened windows user. on my wifes macbook after 30 mins i bootcamped windows.
and the point is LOL?? i run logic 64bit in lion, and am pretty happy. the ONLY 32bit plugin i have now is sylenth1, so...yes, a 64bit update is (way over)due... the 32bit bridge in logic works mostly, crashes occasionally. but really, overall, a small price to pay to keep my have soft synth in the game... |
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fisherKing wrote: MFXxx wrote: Its threads like this that confirm my rationale for staying with windows. I feel for you guys maybe a workaround is in order. Does mac bridge like jvridge in pc, so use logic in 32 bit and bridgebyou ram hungry plugins in 64 bit. As for the business aspect I dont recall ld stating mac 64 ever being in the pipeline and with the continuous upgrades with Osx versions I dont think i would want to support it either. but i am an unelightened windows user. on my wifes macbook after 30 mins i bootcamped windows.
and the point is LOL?? i run logic 64bit in lion, and am pretty happy. the ONLY 32bit plugin i have now is sylenth1, so...yes, a 64bit update is (way over)due... the 32bit bridge in logic works mostly, crashes occasionally. but really, overall, a small price to pay to keep my have soft synth in the game... I guess my rationale is it all works fine in windows. If Sylenth is really a big issue then drop your mac for windows. if not then why not consider the many wonderful alternatives that marvel on mac. The point is, move on and make music if the tools broke fix it with a window and mot the lion. If sylenth is an essential tool work around it. There are pkugins in windows that i have to bridge and thay is what we have to work with. Many situations in life bleed hard decisions. I still dont understand where LD promised or indicated osx 64! ---- Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend air 'Need talent & opportunity' |
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we're not talking about promises made (or broken).
if windows works for you thats great, really. am a mac person by choice. enough music people use OS X, it's not unreasonable to look for support for the os. it's just...if S1 is still active, it needs updating. if we can get a 64bit AU for mac, i'd be happy. but i'm not letting me stop using the plugin. anyway, not really sure what your point is. we all do what we can, with what we have. wanting more, or better, is not unreasonable. |
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I hate to say it, but while I own Sylenth1 and use it with no issues (using it in 32bit Live in Vista 64) I think that while it has a warm sweet sound to it, it's not a terribly unique sounding plug in. At least not any more. If you're really having issues with it, sell your license and move on. Dune should do the trick for you and there's a 64 bit version if memory serves. I never bought it because I felt it covered too much of the same ground that Sylenth1 does, but I remember thinking it had a similar kind of sound to it. ---- Zerocrossing Media http://www.zerocrossing.net 4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~ |
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zerocrossing wrote: I hate to say it, but while I own Sylenth1 and use it with no issues (using it in 32bit Live in Vista 64) I think that while it has a warm sweet sound to it, it's not a terribly unique sounding plug in. At least not any more. If you're really having issues with it, sell your license and move on. Dune should do the trick for you and there's a 64 bit version if memory serves. I never bought it because I felt it covered too much of the same ground that Sylenth1 does, but I remember thinking it had a similar kind of sound to it.
i may add dune to my arsenal, it's a GREAT synth (and i use zebra already). but i have A LOT of songs with instances of S1, and...am not (yet...) about to replace each one with something new. (i also have a HUGE library of patches for the S1). will stay with it (as long as logic, and life, allow...) |
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