KVR Audio

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:52 am

What independent developers are consistently releasing the most bug-free, solid, reliable, VST compatible, software instruments, fx, and processors and have the best customer service reputations?

I'd like to concentrate on the best and brightest and ignore the rest so things can stay positive. I'd like to omit freeware developers even though I know there are some great developers in that category. I'm looking to buy from independent developers who are making great commercial software from the ground up with solid code that can be counted on to provide a trouble-free user experience.

Thanks in advance.

miedex · Post by **miedex** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:02 am

Spend some quality dedicated time thoughtfully monitoring the communities and all shall be revealed and then you can say the same about yourself as you require from others.

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:08 am

miedex wrote:Spend some quality dedicated time thoughtfully monitoring the communities and all shall be revealed and then you can say the same about yourself as you require from others.

wtf?

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:17 am

metamorphosis wrote:wtf?

+1

miedex · Post by **miedex** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:27 am

optofonik wrote:
metamorphosis wrote:wtf?
+1

To clarify, it is ironic that you require no corners of quality cut but go about your quest in the biggest corner cutting way.

It seems like 90% of the developers discussed on KVR are indie and probably 90% of those provide high quality products and services. So it seems kind of fruitless to try and divine that kind of list.

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:43 am

Miedex, thanks for the thoughtful reply. Duly noted. Much appreciated. Very helpful indeed.

Kind regards.

geroyannis · Post by **geroyannis** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:54 am

Thanks, I learned a new word, "pithy". I like the way it sounds.

EDIT: This awesome word, pithy, was in optofonik's above post but it has been edited at least twice so far. It seems I was one of the few lucky ones to see it.

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:20 am

geroyannis wrote:Thanks, I learned a new word, "pithy". I like the way it sounds.

EDIT: This awesome word, pithy, was in optofonik's above post but it has been edited at least twice so far. It seems I was one of the few lucky ones to see it.

It's true. Upon re-reading my initial reply I thought if overly harsh and edited it accordingly.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:39 am

i do that constantly. it would be much better if the preview mode saw more use.

it is a bit silly of a request you're posting though.

i've seen crashes and ridiculously bad implementations from every developer out there.

sometimes the most reliable tool for the task might be a synth-edit plugin.

"indie" doesn't really work because 100% of all plugins are written by small teams at most, and generally by single programmers.

you have to be a lot more specific.

do you mean privately distributed products registered to / licensed by a sole-proprietorship or individual rather than a corporation?

that changes things - they become more like 10%.

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:45 am

aciddose wrote:...do you mean privately (coded and*) distributed products... licensed by a sole-proprietorship or individual rather than a corporation?

Sure. Why not.

*My edit

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:49 am

"indie" doesn't really work because 100% of all plugins are written by small teams at most, and generally by single programmers.

for once we agree

Audio stuff is a niche, even more for plugins, every team is independent - to start with, what would they be dependent to?

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:03 am

optofonik wrote:(coded and*)
Sure. Why not.
*My edit

all of them are "privately coded".

so let's be specific - you want code that is written outside of any sort of contract.

do you also want to limit the amount of externally sourced code (libraries, etc) in the product?

if so now you're in territory where you can't find the answers. you couldn't even easily figure this out if you wrote the product yourself.

you'd have to be 100% certain you never wrote derivatively, which means never read any other source from anything at any time.

this is pretty much impossible.

honestly if you look at the commercial closed-source code in most products you could easily find license violations and derivatives. if you had super powers (god?) and could examine the history of all authors you would definitely find tons of interconnecting derivation lines.

this is actually one major reason most commercial products are closed source. open-source is a liability.

the other reason is just a branch from that - you put yourself at a huge disadvantage when you expose yourself while everybody else does not. anybody could take your source code use it while you'd never know and never have any recourse.

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:22 am

The only plugins I have used that have been truly trouble free, nearly bug free, with excellent sound, good GUI, hassle free copy protection, regular updates, great dev, not one complaint, are Voxengo plugins:
www.voxengo.com

The dev is Aleksey Vaneev.

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:24 am

Cordelia wrote:The only plugins I have used that have been truly trouble free, nearly bug free, with excellent sound, good GUI, hassle free copy protection, regular updates, great dev, not one complaint, are Voxengo plugins:
www.voxengo.com

The dev is Aleksey Vaneev.

Thank you, Cordelia.

optofonik · Post by **optofonik** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:26 am

Most solid, reliable, bug-free, indie VST developers with excellent customer service? (EDIT)