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cron · Post by **cron** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:17 pm

There are a few ways that you can use sidechaining as an effect quite subtly. One thing I like to do (although I haven't finished anything using this technique yet) is to sidechain my (fairly wet) reverb bus. Much more useful on more percussive/dynamic lead lines (which I gather is what you're dealing with if I understand your explanation correctly) than it is on long uninterrupted sawtooth screams. Gets you the sidechain 'effect' without being quite as invasive as applying it directly to volume.

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:17 pm

f*ck sidechain

It's overused and sounds boring indeed ...

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:20 pm

Aiyn wrote:In seriousness though I really dislike side-chaining effects and the over use of side-chaining has ruined many a good tune imo. Don't feel obligated to practice everything people say when it comes to music because one size cannot possibly fit all.

The only thing I do side-chain is the effects and I might do light side-chaining on the bass. But this is always for mixing and not for effect.

+1!1

Folks really need to realize the difference between doing it for mixing and doing it for effect.
They are totally different things in the end.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:34 pm

I reckon side-chained and then a tremelo doing the same sort of thing (plus maybe LFOtool and VolumeShaper3 just to make sure finished with some uber-anal editing to make the pump just unbearable = Winning)

I still call it keying, Im just not cool enough these days

All the best to all. Pump 'em all

Dean

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:54 pm

Well let me give you an example, a while ago some kid wanted me to sign him to our label, Side-Chayne Masters. He sent me a small sample of his work. It was a joke, all flat. So I fixed it and after we fixed the dynamics problem it actually came out pretty good:

http://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/side-chayne-master

So it doesn't have to be stupid or anything, just enough to get it moving, its all about subtlety you don't even notice its there.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:07 pm

Aiyn wrote:Well let me give you an example, a while ago some kid wanted me to sign him to our label, Side-Chayne Masters. He sent me a small sample of his work. It was a joke, all flat. So I fixed it and after we fixed the dynamics problem it actually came out pretty good:

http://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/side-chayne-master

So it doesn't have to be stupid or anything, just enough to get it moving, its all about subtlety you don't even notice its there.

I hardly can't hear it...with VolumeShaper plus additional volume automation it would have been much more impressive...

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:13 pm

Well it was just a quick job, I can't do everything for everyone people have to learn it themselves like I did.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:28 pm

Some famous producer once said wrote: Sidechain everything to everything!

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:33 pm

mmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAH

Feeling the urge to dance yet?

JJBiener · Post by **JJBiener** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:31 pm

Sendy wrote:mmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAH

Feeling the urge to dance yet?

I feel the urge to toss my cookies.

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:38 pm

Sendy wrote:mmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAH

Feeling the urge to dance yet?

I feel the urge to vomit right now!

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:42 pm

Sendy wrote:mmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAHmmmWAH

Feeling the urge to dance yet?

I need that MDNA from Madonna to dance...

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:58 pm

me too actually ... Or maybe I took too much of that stuff and now I have to vomit ...

VibraSound · Post by **VibraSound** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:34 pm

My next track will be 0 sidechain/pumping.

I like 90's Euro Dance music with natural sound, no sidechain.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:50 pm

VibraSound wrote:My next track will be 0 sidechain/pumping.

I like 90's Euro Dance music with natural sound, no sidechain.

The dance music of the 90s was ways more creative than the dance music of today. Today there are much more production techniques, but the tunes lack creativity and originality.

Is Sidechain essential?