The end of Albino
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
It will always work for me. It is completely indispensible in my aresenal. So when the time comes to upgrade PC (and therefore OS), I will maintain a seperate WinXP system solely for Albinoaudington wrote:With the talk of Linplug supporting Albino for the next two years, what happens at the end of that - does Albino just stop working? I presume it would continue to work as long as your hardware supported it, am I right?
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- KVRist
- 120 posts since 13 Sep, 2007 from Austria
Arguments like "I suggested the scream filter and the layer thing" are not worth much on its own, and misleading. This would be definitively not enough to claim any intellectual property on a synth concept, especially after 10 years in a field of ever evolving technology. Even the sounds are a weak argument, as any idiot could write a short script to transfer them into a new format.
The most important fact is that a new synth that is supposed to load all (really all) Albino presets would absolutely need to 100% (really 100%) copy the architecture of Albino (and probably expand it), and in that case we are approaching both trademark and design copyright territory. We know that Albino was distributed by both Linplug and Rob Papen, but we do not know the legal basis. If it was clearly "sounds=Rob" and "synth=Peter", then Peter would have all rights to make an Albino4, without the presets included. If Albino was a collaborative design on many levels (and if this is noted in written form), Peter would most likely need written consent from Rob to evolve the basis of Albino3 into a new product. And as the situation looks like, this might not be happen. Rob will not be willing to give it away for free, because his financial interests lie in his own new snyths. And I doubt that it makes sense economically for Peter to invest additional money into the rights of a ten year old synth concept.
Georg
The most important fact is that a new synth that is supposed to load all (really all) Albino presets would absolutely need to 100% (really 100%) copy the architecture of Albino (and probably expand it), and in that case we are approaching both trademark and design copyright territory. We know that Albino was distributed by both Linplug and Rob Papen, but we do not know the legal basis. If it was clearly "sounds=Rob" and "synth=Peter", then Peter would have all rights to make an Albino4, without the presets included. If Albino was a collaborative design on many levels (and if this is noted in written form), Peter would most likely need written consent from Rob to evolve the basis of Albino3 into a new product. And as the situation looks like, this might not be happen. Rob will not be willing to give it away for free, because his financial interests lie in his own new snyths. And I doubt that it makes sense economically for Peter to invest additional money into the rights of a ten year old synth concept.
Georg
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- KVRAF
- 1614 posts since 24 Feb, 2004
Makes you wonder what on earth Linplug were thinking announcing compatibility without consulting Papen first.GeorgK wrote:...Peter would most likely need written consent from Rob to evolve the basis of Albino3 into a new product. And as the situation looks like, this might not be happen. Rob will not be willing to give it away for free, because his financial interests lie in his own new snyths. And I doubt that it makes sense economically for Peter to invest additional money into the rights of a ten year old synth concept.
Georg
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ThoughtExperiment ThoughtExperiment https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7790
- KVRian
- 1082 posts since 26 Jun, 2003 from UK
Maybe they didn't think he'd be such an... I mean, so unreasonable about it?re_mute wrote:Makes you wonder what on earth Linplug were thinking announcing compatibility without consulting Papen first.GeorgK wrote:...Peter would most likely need written consent from Rob to evolve the basis of Albino3 into a new product. And as the situation looks like, this might not be happen. Rob will not be willing to give it away for free, because his financial interests lie in his own new snyths. And I doubt that it makes sense economically for Peter to invest additional money into the rights of a ten year old synth concept.
Georg
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
I, for one, love the mellow sound of Albino. I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing what Peter comes up with next!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4374 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Quite facinating and nice to see so much love for a synth that as old as this one 
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
+1Neon Breath wrote:Quite facinating and nice to see so much love for a synth that as old as this one
really true...
Deeply contrasting with the early reactions here at kvr right after the first review of albino was published, ...for those who remember !
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Same here.deastman wrote:I, for one, love the mellow sound of Albino. I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing what Peter comes up with next!
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- KVRAF
- 2841 posts since 23 Feb, 2004 from Planet Earth...for now
This may be an unfavorable opinion, but I don't really see the need for either party to offer "crossgrades". The whole notion is silly.
Albino's had a good run as far as plugin lifespans go - honestly I'd like to see it continue, but all good things must end - If Linplug continues support for 2 more years as stated, what more do people expect?
Albino's had a good run as far as plugin lifespans go - honestly I'd like to see it continue, but all good things must end - If Linplug continues support for 2 more years as stated, what more do people expect?
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- KVRAF
- 1614 posts since 24 Feb, 2004
Not unfavourable more...of all the things to get annoyed by this is surely one of the oddest.1-2-Many wrote:This may be an unfavorable opinion, but I don't really see the need for either party to offer "crossgrades". The whole notion is silly.
Never look am albino gifthorse in the mouth and all that.
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- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
- KVRAF
- 4062 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
We are more than you thinkjacqueslacouth wrote:Maybe one man can't make a difference, but I swear, from this day, I will not support any developer who only offers Share it as a payment option. They are a bunch of arseholes plain and simple.
Maybe if others took a stand on this, developers might look for a fairer deal for their customers....Thumbs up to Urs on this, how about the rest of you.
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- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
- KVRAF
- 14123 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I'd contact Share It directly because that's ridiculous. I;ve watched currency almost every day and the Aussie dollar has always been on par/a little below what the dollar is. Unless they are tacking on a 'currency conversion' fee like my dear lovely bank does.
