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Uncle E wrote: UAD Lexicon 224
Absolutely stunning, much better then the Lexicon PCM, at least for me. Valhalla close second, still king of the hill in many cases. |
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mr president wrote: tehlord wrote: I'd suggest they're all rubbish if you don't know what you're doing.
well thats told me ---- interest is a matter of opinion, opinion irrelevant to anyone, apart from those who have interest, therefore, what does it matter? Correct ---- Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend air 'Need talent & opportunity' |
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Valhallaroom won the franchise wars, now all reverbs are valhallaroom. except reverberate which is a fab convo verb |
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Thanks for the help guys, I searched around a little I was looking for an algorithmic verb. I tried the Valhalla and the Redline and to me the Redline is better for a more in your face type sound without getting to muddy, while valhalla can give a good atmospheric feel. But thats what I've got so far in testing |
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supracg wrote: Thanks for the help guys, I searched around a little I was looking for an algorithmic verb. I tried the Valhalla and the Redline and to me the Redline is better for a more in your face type sound without getting to muddy, while valhalla can give a good atmospheric feel. But thats what I've got so far in testing
EAReckon EAReverb and the free Epicverb (pc only) should also be on your testing list! |
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ariston wrote: Why not do a search? Reverbs have been discussed to death here. Press on and you'll hear the following: Lexicon, Aether, Breeze, Arts Acoustic, Redline, Eos, Valhalla Room, Breverb, or "stick with Space Designer, it's awesome". None of which will leave you any the wiser.
As a suggestion: maybe it's not a different reverb that you need, but some basic mixing techniques (like EQing the ins and/or outs of the 'verb, or saturating and/or compressing the reverbed signal, etc.). Sometimes it's a good idea to go for a (filtered) delay/echo instead of a reverb. This technique is good for leads, be they vocals or synth/guitar lines, since it doesn't clutter the mix as much as a reverb would. finally a reasonable answer to the reverb question. I came to the following conclusion. The quality of algorithms varies a bit, but the differences are exaggerated. I have the impression that some algos just internally apply some eq and some not. so with eq you can "cure" a lot about the sound of most reverbs. that's why reverbs with separate inbuilt eq for early and late reflections are my preference. |
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AKJ wrote: finally a reasonable answer to the reverb question. I came to the following conclusion. The quality of algorithms varies a bit, but the differences are exaggerated. I have the impression that some algos just internally apply some eq and some not. so with eq you can "cure" a lot about the sound of most reverbs. that's why reverbs with separate inbuilt eq for early and late reflections are my preference. I tend to get worked up about reverbs as much as anyone, straining my ears to hear those "huge" differences. A sober look (or listen) tells me that the differences are, as you say, exaggerated. It used to be different; some of the first algorithmic reverbs were not very good. Nowadays, though, we're really spoiled for choice, with a couple of freebies and very cheap plugins holding their own. I really believe the idea of having to treat a reverb much as you would treat any other track while mixing needs more attention. That's not to say that there AREN'T differences between algo reverbs, because there obviously are. One thing I really like to do is to EQ the signal and then send it through a subtle (or sometimes not so subtle) distortion unit before it even hits the reverb. Saturn is great for this. Then I compress the reverb, usually but not always using parallel compression and sometimes sidechaining to open up the track a bit more. This creates a very satisfying thickening effect which can remain unobtrusive because you've EQd the signal going in, only using those frequencies that you need. I actually prefer that to cleaning up the signal afterwards. |
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a good reverb plugin ?
that's not been aksed before for at least 24 hours in this subforum. Every Reverb is the best, the only reverb that sucks big time is Valhalla. Seriously, don't try it, it is just sooo bad...a waste of time to even demo it. Every other reverb is much better. ---- new Dusk to Dawn Song ! Synth-Pop / New-Wave https://soundcloud.com/dusktodawn/dusk-to-dawn-traces-synth-pop |
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Don't forget Audio Damage Eos.
Simple clean love it. |
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MFXxx wrote: mr president wrote: tehlord wrote: I'd suggest they're all rubbish if you don't know what you're doing.
well thats told me ---- interest is a matter of opinion, opinion irrelevant to anyone, apart from those who have interest, therefore, what does it matter? Correct well thats told me ![]() |
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Toraverb is a lot of fun from D16.
Poor Plate is a keeper too for a freebie. I am using IR's a lot more now with REVerence in Cubase, so convolution verbs are becoming popular with me again. SIR is a good verb for that, and Reverberate (I believe) ---- Forward ever, Backward never |
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LeVzi wrote: I am using IR's a lot more now with REVerence in Cubase, so convolution verbs are becoming popular with me again. SIR is a good verb for that, and Reverberate (I believe) Yes these are also good reverbs.I use both of these from time to time and compliment my algo reverbs (EAReverb, ValhallaRoom, Redline Reverb and Epicverb) nicely! |
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darsho wrote: Every Reverb is the best, the only reverb that sucks big time is Valhalla. Seriously, don't try it, it is just sooo bad...a waste of time to even demo it. Every other reverb is much better. WHAT?!!! Why I oughta...*shakes fists at laptop screen while muttering incoherently* ---- Plugins: http://www.valhalladsp.com Blog: http://valhalladsp.wordpress.com KVR Subforum: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=146 |
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I quite like Space Designer. "The best" seems subjective most of the times to me. |
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