KVR Audio

itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:07 pm

Hello forum, I'm looking for some of the best EDM sound designers on this forum to show me what you can do. In this topic I was hoping for us to discuss some "non-basic" techniques to make those "big room" synths, leads, plucks, etc. Perhaps things such as certain effects, lfo modulations, multiband compression, etc. Let us know how you do things and I'll share some of the techniques that I personally use to produce some of my sounds

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Thu May 31, 2012 9:08 pm

Have you ever seen these videos: http://www.dancemusicproduction.com/
?

I've watched his video on drums and have been thinking for a while about getting his one where he mixes a whole track. I just don't know how deep it goes and there's no preview.

Really didn't find the groove3 dance music video very good. The song was really boring and He babbled a lot. I don't think there was anything stand-out about his result but maybe I need to revisit.

itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Thu May 31, 2012 10:18 pm

I don't pay for tutorials, sorry

Teeleh · Post by **Teeleh** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:20 am

Your best bet is learning Max MSP.

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:28 am

How to Make Future Techno - start to finish tutorial videos.

Peace,
Andy.

Synth Buddha · Post by **Synth Buddha** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:12 pm

itsNano wrote:I don't pay for tutorials, sorry

Congratulations, that made you come across as REALLY smart.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:10 pm

This is fun to watch

and free!

Monib · Post by **Monib** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:37 am

Synth Buddha wrote:
itsNano wrote:I don't pay for tutorials, sorry
Congratulations, that made you come across as REALLY smart.

Don't see why people won't "pay" to learn something in these days...

Historically an art that was handed down didn't come for free. I've paid for many tutorials, and they still keep giving back, especially Rick Snoman's stuff.

Loki Fuego · Post by **Loki Fuego** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:15 am

itsNano wrote:In this topic I was hoping for us to discuss some "non-basic" techniques to make those "big room" synths, leads, plucks, etc. Perhaps things such as certain effects, lfo modulations, multiband compression, etc.

Your hope is futile. Surprising as it might be, but all those "big room" synths, leads and plucks are result of basic techniques.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:13 am

An initialize saw patch with the modwheel set to cutoff, drowned in reverb and delay, and your there.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:21 am

mcnoone wrote:An initialize saw patch with the modwheel set to cutoff, drowned in reverb and delay, and your there.

You forgot the SIIde CHAAiin PPUUUmmpIIInnng AAAACtion

Ooh, and make that saw a doublesaw to go.

qa2pir · Post by **qa2pir** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:45 am

so charmingly jaded you guys are hating the music you make

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:14 pm

itsNano wrote:Hello forum, I'm looking for some of the best EDM sound designers on this forum to show me what you can do. In this topic I was hoping for us to discuss some "non-basic" techniques to make those "big room" synths, leads, plucks, etc. Perhaps things such as certain effects, lfo modulations, multiband compression, etc. Let us know how you do things and I'll share some of the techniques that I personally use to produce some of my sounds

Not to draw you out too much, but could you at least tell us what basic techniques you are familiar with (and don't mind sharing, given that many of us also know them) so that we can then get to the 'non-basic' specifics that you really want to hear from us?
Also, the posts by others here - particularly those by Aiynzahev and Andy - are worth following, if only to confirm / contrast with what you maybe already know.

And, fwiw, I think your music production skill is very good as exhibited in your songs - it's much better than I was at your age (eighteen) - but there are plenty of professional sound designers, musicians and audio engineers here at KVR, so it might be worth PM-ing a few as well for advice and help.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:42 pm

Loki Fuego wrote:Your hope is futile. Surprising as it might be, but all those "big room" synths, leads and plucks are result of basic techniques.

I believe this to be true.
If you want to sound like Teisto.
It simply isn't about the sounds.
It's the arps, the effects, the automation, the loops, the production ability.
But it isn't the sounds that are difficult in modern dance music.
The sounds are available from the presets included with many synths, and the many edm sounds in soundsets sold, and free.
Then just examine the sounds you like, and see how they were done.
Incorporate some of the things you learn, into your own sound creation.
Most sounds in edm, you will find, are very simple to do. You will also find that doing pads, for any style of music, is not easy to do.
For the dance stuff, having good voice unison, and detune ability is probably the most important feature needed.
It's still the processing, automation, and fx production methods that make it work. EDM synth sounds are everywhere, no need to start of from scratch.
Better to tweak others sounds, and learn from them, to eventually get into doing your own sounds from scratch.

itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:52 pm

lol, it's okay guys, i don't need anymore help here, I already figured out how to make some boss sounds

. For me, once I get my "general" sound how i like it, I then start to shape it into what i want it to be with the effects.

, and please... if you don't got anything good to say, then go spam your pointless rants in some other posts. k, thx, bye.

Professional Sound Design: "Non-Basic" Sound Synthesis Techniques