I've always wanted to go for the Softube FET Compressor, despite me having to break my vow about never buying an iLok, but the price is too steep.
Now I noticed that FET is available as a Reason Rack Extension, but check out the discrepancy in price...
FET (VST) - $219/€174
FET (RE) - $125/€99
Whilst finding this to be grossly unfair to VST users, I wonder what Softube have to say about this matter.
Softube: VST pricing vs. RE pricing
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 3 Dec, 2007 from Cambridge, UK
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- KVRian
- 1401 posts since 9 Feb, 2012
You can get it for that or less if you look around and/or wait for it to be on sale. In fact I saw the bundle with the little reverb, FET and whatever the EQ pack is called for $150, so $50 each together? I think cakewalk had the same bundle on sale for quite some time for not much more than that, etc.
As to whether the pricing is fair? I dunno, what is? I don't know much about p-head's format or pricing. Maybe those can't be discounted or at least maybe they want it to look that way for now. I suppose there's also the argument that the real plug-ins will work in more than one host.
I don't know if they take advantage of the CV thing, but that is really nice. It's not nice enough for me to want to work in such a closed system though, and the thought of repurchasing plug-ins you already have, if that's what you'd have to do, is not at all attractive.
As to whether the pricing is fair? I dunno, what is? I don't know much about p-head's format or pricing. Maybe those can't be discounted or at least maybe they want it to look that way for now. I suppose there's also the argument that the real plug-ins will work in more than one host.
I don't know if they take advantage of the CV thing, but that is really nice. It's not nice enough for me to want to work in such a closed system though, and the thought of repurchasing plug-ins you already have, if that's what you'd have to do, is not at all attractive.
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- KVRAF
- 16733 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
The RE price is an introductory price.Woody Aki wrote:I've always wanted to go for the Softube FET Compressor, despite me having to break my vow about never buying an iLok, but the price is too steep.
Now I noticed that FET is available as a Reason Rack Extension, but check out the discrepancy in price...
FET (VST) - $219/€174
FET (RE) - $125/€99
Whilst finding this to be grossly unfair to VST users, I wonder what Softube's have to say about this matter.
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
I don't think it's unfair. For example Softube does not have to pay for shop expenses, copy protection maintenance, cross platform development compatibility etc.etc. the list really goes on. That is all on Propellerhead take.Woody Aki wrote:I've always wanted to go for the Softube FET Compressor, despite me having to break my vow about never buying an iLok, but the price is too steep.
Now I noticed that FET is available as a Reason Rack Extension, but check out the discrepancy in price...
FET (VST) - $219/€174
FET (RE) - $125/€99
Whilst finding this to be grossly unfair to VST users, I wonder what Softube's have to say about this matter.
If you want anyone to blame then blame outrageous ilok fees. It seems that Props copy protection scheme is way more affordable. You really need to understand these factors and you'll see that price is ok.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 211 posts since 3 Dec, 2007 from Cambridge, UK
Point taken and digested. Still sucks though...kmonkey wrote:I don't think it's unfair. For example Softube does not have to pay for shop expenses, copy protection maintenance, cross platform development compatibility etc.etc. the list really goes on. That is all on Propellerhead take.Woody Aki wrote:I've always wanted to go for the Softube FET Compressor, despite me having to break my vow about never buying an iLok, but the price is too steep.
Now I noticed that FET is available as a Reason Rack Extension, but check out the discrepancy in price...
FET (VST) - $219/€174
FET (RE) - $125/€99
Whilst finding this to be grossly unfair to VST users, I wonder what Softube's have to say about this matter.
If you want anyone to blame then blame outrageous ilok fees. It seems that Props copy protection scheme is way more affordable. You really need to understand these factors and you'll see that price is ok.
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- KVRist
- 169 posts since 12 Jan, 2007
Looks like the regular price for the RE version is $149?
The other interesting thing is that for SONAR ProChannel, they just include it in the VST package. If you had the VST, you got the ProChannel as a free upgrade, and if you bought the ProChannel, it came with the VST. Same for AAX when they released it. RE is completely separate.
The other interesting thing is that for SONAR ProChannel, they just include it in the VST package. If you had the VST, you got the ProChannel as a free upgrade, and if you bought the ProChannel, it came with the VST. Same for AAX when they released it. RE is completely separate.
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- KVRist
- 473 posts since 9 Jul, 2010 from Wellington, New Zealand
Propellerheads will have a deal, maybe even covered some of the dev cost to get them on board, also don't expect the RE version to sounds as good as the VST version. I found that the Native Instruments and Softube collaboration was no where near as good as the stand alone softubes plugs.
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- KVRist
- 203 posts since 13 Aug, 2003
oh, please...shalako wrote:Propellerheads will have a deal, maybe even covered some of the dev cost to get them on board, also don't expect the RE version to sounds as good as the VST version. I found that the Native Instruments and Softube collaboration was no where near as good as the stand alone softubes plugs.
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- KVRAF
- 1580 posts since 22 Apr, 2011 from The House of Zaid
bloody hell. really? really? really? really?shalako wrote:also don't expect the RE version to sounds as good as the VST version.
really?
really?
really?
f**king relaly?
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- KVRAF
- 2070 posts since 5 Oct, 2005
Yes, really. 
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- KVRAF
- 19801 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Further OT and not limited to Softube....would you purchase again a Rack Extension plugin that you already purchased as a vst/i ? I don't own Reason. I'm just curious how many people would buy both versions..........
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
I assume only rich ones..Teksonik wrote:Further OT and not limited to Softube....would you purchase again a Rack Extension plugin that you already purchased as a vst/i ? I don't own Reason. I'm just curious how many people would buy both versions..........
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- KVRAF
- 19801 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Good point........kmonkey wrote:I assume only rich ones..Teksonik wrote:Further OT and not limited to Softube....would you purchase again a Rack Extension plugin that you already purchased as a vst/i ? I don't own Reason. I'm just curious how many people would buy both versions..........
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe