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izonin · Post by **izonin** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:18 am

Hi,
I'm wondering if there's a way to automate a parameter that isn't declared to the host. Some kind of a virtual hand maybe?

Jonathan Shepherd · Post by **Jonathan Shepherd** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:04 am

I've thought about that before too...just tweak the dial/slider to the minimum and maximum values and record the movements as host automation. A meta parameter tweaker, or something like that. It would be nice!

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:48 am

Can't you do it via midi automation ?
It would help to know which plugin and host you're using.

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:58 pm

I'm thinking NRPN(Non Registered Parameter Number) or what is stands for.

If you know the NRPN code for the plug it can be done.

But it could be any CC that is not reported to host I guess.

But if plugin is not prepared for that parameter it cannot be done.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:22 pm

jupiter8 wrote:Can't you do it via midi automation ?
It would help to know which plugin and host you're using.

I'm trying to automate the Release of Filterfreak in Reaper. It's not in the parameters list and can't be mapped to midi. I thought that every control that is accessible through the GUI is mappable.

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:56 pm

izonin wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:Can't you do it via midi automation ?
It would help to know which plugin and host you're using.
I'm trying to automate the Release of Filterfreak in Reaper. It's not in the parameters list and can't be mapped to midi. I thought that every control that is accessible through the GUI is mappable.

One would think so - since you get the settings saved with host with your track and project.

But I think that is proprietary binary format for each plugin with just x bytes length and nondocumented.

And programmingwise you need to take extra care about parameters that are changed in realtime, not to get crackles and pops in audio when they are changed. So it takes some effort to do that.

So if there were VST hosts that could take such snapshots in between and record that for automation I guess you could end up with unwanted noise from plug doing that.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:21 pm

Thanks lfm. I was hoping for a plugin wrapper that could access those controls through the GUI as a virtual hand/mouse, and then report them to the host.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:24 pm

izonin wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:Can't you do it via midi automation ?
It would help to know which plugin and host you're using.
I'm trying to automate the Release of Filterfreak in Reaper. It's not in the parameters list and can't be mapped to midi. I thought that every control that is accessible through the GUI is mappable.

I was going to download the demo to see if there was a way but i'm not doing this:

Our 30-day demos do not require an iLok authorization but you must have the most recent Pace iLok drivers installed. These can be downloaded here.

sorry. I want to help but not that much.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:14 am

izonin wrote:I'm trying to automate the Release of Filterfreak in Reaper.

Ask at the horses mouth maybe?
https://www.soundtoys.com/forms/support

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:35 am

BertKoor wrote:
izonin wrote:I'm trying to automate the Release of Filterfreak in Reaper.
Ask at the horses mouth maybe?
https://www.soundtoys.com/forms/support

They said it's on their list.

I'm interested in automating such controls in general, that's why I didn't start this topic in the Effects forum. Can't believe there's no workaround.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:35 pm

Don't think there's a workaround except for Soundtoys to fix what is really a bug..

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:23 pm

I always thought this could do that:

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/christian_ ... lyser_3586

Automating an undeclared parameter